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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

Yes this is reported by many. It seems there is an issue with CC3D due to those special changes

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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

Not just on CC3D. I see this behavior on two Naze32 rev5 ships. see here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33582182&postcount=12794

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

I have tested BF 2.1.6 on this CC3D right now and it is working OK without SERVO but MOTORS are OK. The problem is in new 2.2.0 RC1 somewhere.

Im not sure if its new tricopter mapping to give this problem or something else.

I just wanted to confirm that I have tried newest CF 1.11.0 and tricopter flies fine on CC3D. I dont know how hard it is from you to use the code but just informing that it works fine there.

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

@waslater
naze32 just works.
Op 30 dec. 2015 18:40 schreef "catchthewind" [email protected]:

I have tested BF 2.1.6 on this CC3D right now and it is working OK without
SERVO but MOTORS are OK. The problem is in new 2.2.0 RC1 somewhere.

Im not sure if its new tricopter mapping to give this problem or something
else.

I just wanted to confirm that I have tried newest CF 1.11.0 and tricopter
flies fine on CC3D. I dont know how hard it is from you to use the code but
just informing that it works fine there.


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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

@catchthewind
That code is one of the suspects.

I will provide you some binaries to try to see if we can find out what
change caused it.
Op 30 dec. 2015 19:43 schreef [email protected]:

@waslater
naze32 just works.
Op 30 dec. 2015 18:40 schreef "catchthewind" [email protected]:

I have tested BF 2.1.6 on this CC3D right now and it is working OK
without SERVO but MOTORS are OK. The problem is in new 2.2.0 RC1 somewhere.

Im not sure if its new tricopter mapping to give this problem or
something else.

I just wanted to confirm that I have tried newest CF 1.11.0 and tricopter
flies fine on CC3D. I dont know how hard it is from you to use the code but
just informing that it works fine there.


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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

@borisbstyle both of mine certainly don't. Especially on rewrite. I'll post a video on RC groups to document further. I haven't tested my dodo, but I'll do that too.

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

if it is only rewrite than it is for 100% different issue than this.
Try lowering D on rewrite perhaps.
Op 30 dec. 2015 19:48 schreef "waslater" [email protected]:

@borisbstyle https://github.com/borisbstyle both of mine certainly
don't. Especially on rewrite. I'll post a video on RC groups to document
further. I haven't tested my dodo, but I'll do that too.


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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

Lux is has strange blips in it too, but at least doesn't go full throttle. I will lower D to 0 and test again on rewrite.

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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

That did it on PIDC1 and naze32, if I zero out yaw on all axes, then no jump to full throttle. If I set all D values at 5, problem comes back. Want me to open a new issue?

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

Yes maybe good idea to separate it but collect as much as possible info.

type tasks in cli and type status. See what it says there.

Also report your gear etc.

Your issue seems only 2khz related right?
Op 30 dec. 2015 20:19 schreef "waslater" [email protected]:

That did it on PIDC1 and naze32, if I zero out yaw on all axes, then no
jump to full throttle. If I set all D values at 5, problem comes back. Want
me to open a new issue?


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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

No it happens on either gyro lpf OFF, or 188hz

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

I am ready to test some hex for you.
I have done some more testing and tried to disable failsafe, enable and disable motorstop and oneshot. It doesnt change anything.

Every time I arm engines 1,3,4 goes 1850 and 2 goes 1150 on quad
On tricopter motor 1 goes 1150 and motors 2,3 goes 1850, servo locked

@borisbstyle

I have changed all D to 0 and it fixes EVERYTHING on Multiwii (Rewrite)
Motors works like they should be. Servo reacts on yaw and copter movements!!
D is the problem

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

Did you try enabling dterm_cut_hz?
Op 30 dec. 2015 21:34 schreef "catchthewind" [email protected]:

I am ready to test some hex for you.
I have done some more testing and tried to disable failsafe, enable and
disable motorstop and oneshot. It doesnt change anything.

Every time I arm engines 1,3,4 goes 1850 and 2 goes 1150 on quad
On tricopter motor 1 goes 1150 and motors 2,3 goes 1850, servo locked

@borisbstyle https://github.com/borisbstyle

I have changed all D to 0 and it fixes EVERYTHING on Multiwii (Rewrite)
Motors works like they should be. Servo reacts on yaw and copter
movements!!
D is the problem


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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

This is very similar to my issue... if I zero D-term the throttle jump disappears. I will try enabling dterm_cut_hz

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RC-Slater avatar RC-Slater commented on June 3, 2024

I just set dterm_cut_hz = 40 and kept my usual numbers on D-term and that fixed the throttle jump...

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

I just set dterm_cut_hz = 1 and that fixed the problem. What value should I put here?

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henn1001 avatar henn1001 commented on June 3, 2024

Confirmed here too http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33584020&postcount=12833
@borisbstyle this still makes me think that there could be something wonky going on in this merge borisbstyle@66cd5e8

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

@henn1001
I dont think its that one. That is a simple change, but there were many others around that code. I will check that part again.

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borisbstyle avatar borisbstyle commented on June 3, 2024

Fixed in RC2
https://github.com/borisbstyle/betaflight/releases/tag/v2.2.0-RC2

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

Tested on a tricopter &CC3D and works OK!!

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

I have also tested enabling beeper on PIN6 with 2.2.0 RC2 on CC3D.

Tricopter works fine, beeper beeps fine alarms and notification. Servo works fine :)

Only problem is that beeper is giving constant silent noise even without the alarm.
I am using simple active beeper 3-5V connected to middle and upper pin of output 6.
Do I need any special beeper for CC3D?? Link please.

All the best and thank you for your work and help.

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henn1001 avatar henn1001 commented on June 3, 2024

Uhm did you just connect the beeper to output 6? You should use a transistor for that because the output of the stm32 chip doesnt deliver enough current.. You could damage that pin
See here for example https://github.com/cleanflight/cleanflight/blob/master/docs/Wiring/CC3D%20-%20buzzer%20circuit.pdf
Pin38=MotorP6 - Any PNP Transistor should do.

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catchthewind avatar catchthewind commented on June 3, 2024

Ok, thanks :) I have just finished 7 flights. 3 x 3s battery and 4 x 4s battery without problems. Acro feels great. Tricopter is flying great.

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mhusiak avatar mhusiak commented on June 3, 2024

(Excuse my etiquette, it's my first time using github)

I'm having this same problem on my CC3D Atom on 3.0.1. It didn't work the first time I flashed, worked after trying different releases and settling on 3.0.1, and then the weird full throttle thing started again after I adjusted my rates (unrelated?).

I thought that what fixed the issue was adjusting the gyro/pid frequency to 1kHz/0.5kHz. But that isn't helping now.

Has this been identified and fixed?

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jflyper avatar jflyper commented on June 3, 2024

@mhusiak

  • This issue has been raised and fixed almost TWO years ago, and it was related with v2.2.0.
  • Please redirect your questions and support requests to some appropriate forums on the net, as Betaflight github is not a place for support.
  • FYI, please note that F1 support in Betaflight is coming to EOL.
    https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki

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