The random selection doesn't appear to be very random

[burntsushi]

The random selection doesn't appear to be very random

[bluss]

There needs to be a new api for requesting a quickcheck-controlled size value. Something that's appropriate for selecting the size of a datastructure to generate. I think I mostly use usize's Arbitrary impl for that at the moment.

[vi]

Maybe it's time to make a change like #99, but for numbers?

1. With 1/4 probability, pick a number from [-100,100]
2. With 3/4-1/25 probability, pick random bit pattern interpreted as a number
3. With 3/100 probability, pick a power of two + [-3,3]
4. With 1/100 probability, pick a number from some pre-selected set of tricky numbers that have more than one bug about and not already included in "1." or "3.". Some typical constants for CRC or prime numbers may appear there.

That could make "sane default" for multiple varied uses. Obviously one could override the distribution to task-specific.

[romanb]

There is interest. But I maintain dozens of projects, so it can take me a very long time to merge PRs and/or it's very easy for me to lose track of PRs. Editing comments to include status updates probably doesn't help, as was done in #221. I don't get emails when edits are made.

No worries and I did not mean to criticize, of course. It's just a matter of my personal PR hygiene that I close unmerged PRs on my own after a while when I've also moved on to other things and no longer intend to keep them updated / mergeable.

[BurntSushi]

@sgrif I think the original idea here is that the size method on quickcheck::Gen would control the magnitude of the integers generated, but perhaps that is a misuse. With #116 merged, I think there is now good precedent for biasing towards known problematic values.

[vi]

It is somewhat reversed #99: numbers being biased too much towards -100...100.

I'm going to prepare a reformed number generation analogous to char (but simpler) which should cover entire range, yet preferring some particular numbers.

[mulkieran]

Experienced a problem with some tests: stratis-storage/stratisd@0f7838d, all u64 values were less than minimum required, so all testt were discarded.

[bluss]

With current behaviour that is expected @mulkieran and you simply need a wrapper type that defines the distribution of values that you need.

[mulkieran]

@bluss Can you give me an example?

[mulkieran]

if anyone who understand this problem can give me some help, I'ld appreciate it.

[bluss]

Something like this to make a wrapper type that puts a value inside using the regular Rand impl (not Arbitrary)

extern crate quickcheck;
use quickcheck::Arbitrary;
use quickcheck::Gen;

extern crate rand;
use rand::{Rand, Rng};

#[derive(Copy, Clone, Debug)]
pub struct Random<T>(pub T);

impl<T> Arbitrary for Random<T>
    where T: Rand + Clone + Send + 'static
{
    fn arbitrary<G: Gen>(g: &mut G) -> Self {
        Random(g.gen())
    }
}

[mulkieran]

I would always ask myself what Hypothesis (https://github.com/HypothesisWorks/hypothesis-python) does. But it might not be such a useful question for this problem in this situation.

[quark-zju]

The Haskell implementation seems to first decide maximum bits the generated number has. Then generate a number within the range (-2 ^ max_bits, 2 ^ max_bits). Doing something similar is possible but doing it without regressing performance would be tricky.

Current workaround would be setting environment variable QUICKCHECK_GENERATOR_SIZE=18446744073709551615 on 64-bit platform. Not sure how feasible it is to change the default gen.size() from 100 to usize::MAX. It seems it does not hurt performance at least.

[maxbla]

@BurntSushi I'd like to hear your thoughts about following propositions addressing this issue.

1. Ensure that every valid value* for each integer type has some positive probability of being returned by Arbitrary
2. Completely ignore the size of Gen (for integer types)
3. Have a greater chance to pick problematic values
   • The most problematic values for any type are probably 0, MAX_VALUE and MIN_VALUE, but I could see -1 and 1 being included in this list along with all numbers at "bit transitions" i.e. 3,4,7,8,15,16
4. Use a uniform distribution (besides problematic values)
   • Another candidate distribution is the Geometric/Exponential distribution

*valid values for an integer type T means every value in T::min_value()..=T::max_value()

[BurntSushi]

@maxbla Thanks for writing that out! I think that all seems pretty reasonable to me.

[romanb]

@maxbla Have you seen #221 ? I closed it after ~6 months because there was apparently no interest in merging it, but maybe there is still something useful in there for you, if you want to revive the topic with a new PR, since it implements something very similar to what you propose (the size parameter is not ignored but acts as a weighted bias towards a preferred range).

[BurntSushi]

I closed it after ~6 months because there was apparently no interest in merging it

There is interest. But I maintain dozens of projects, so it can take me a very long time to merge PRs and/or it's very easy for me to lose track of PRs. Editing comments to include status updates probably doesn't help, as was done in #221. I don't get emails when edits are made.

[maxbla]

@romanb yep, I saw #221, and thanks, it was helpful in creating #240.