Publish all releases on PyPI

[bittner]

Publish all releases on PyPI

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[tigarmo]

Hi @bittner. Out of curiosity, what is your use-case for consuming Charmcraft as a Python package (instead of the snap)?

[bittner]

Most importantly, installing a snap in a Dockerfile is not trivial. I maintain a charmcraft container image for pipeline automation, and I'm happy it can be installed just as a normal Python package.

Apart from that, I want to work on Juju Charms preferably with a pure Python tool chain. Also, I think it's fair to assume that developers using a popular (Open Source) Python package expect that it can, primarily, be installed from PyPI.

As for another argument, I use Ubuntu, and of course, I can install a snap - at least on my development machine -, but I have other people in the teams that I work with that prefer to use macOS or Windows. How can I convince them that it's great to work with Juju Charms when it requires them to abandon their preferred environment?

[tigarmo]

Thank you for the reply, this is very interesting. I definitely hear you on the Docker restriction on snaps, and I didn't know people were able to effectively use Charmcraft as a Python package in non-Linux environments.

[bittner]

I didn't know people were able to effectively use Charmcraft as a Python package in non-Linux environments.

TBH, I've not tried charmcraft on anything but Ubuntu, but I assumed that the OS-independent nature of Python is why charmcraft was implemented with it. Not sure what charmcraft features would require to be limited to Linux, or even Ubuntu. The snap packaging, OTOH, certainly is a limiting factor. A friend of mine who uses Arch Linux preferred to come up with a Vagrant setup (with Ubuntu) for charm development.

As by the example in #1580 (comment), the recent improvements on charmcraft were good to have released on PyPI, so that a few more CI use cases could be made possible. 💯

[tigarmo]

Not sure what charmcraft features would require to be limited to Linux, or even Ubuntu

I was thinking of building using managed lxd instances, but if you're using this in a Docker container that wasn't your use case.

[chenrui333]

homebrew does prefer pure pypi toolchain as well, I think it is good to publish sdist to pypi for downstream packaging manager use in general