Stronger password encryption - bcrypt instead of SHA256

[citizenos]

Stronger password encryption - bcrypt instead of SHA256

[ilmartyrk]

Technical solution would be to update password encryption on API side, we delete all passwords that exist in our DB, then when users are logging in we can check if password exists and matches, exists, but doesn't match (display the current wrong password error) or doesn't exist and redirect them into reset/create password window in FE that has informative text displayed about what is going on.

[loorm]

Triage 13 - Mikk said there are things we need to discuss here.

[tiblu]

@loorm
Yes, we need to discuss if we want to use any of my proposed solutions or we go for some other when it comes to migrating Users.

To give you an idea how many people MAY be affected, I counted the total Users in the DB that have passwords (non FB, Google... logins) and I counted 332.

[loorm]

Assigning to Triage 23 on June 8.

[loorm]

Triage 23. This will not be the last time a crypto algorithm becomes out-dated and we need to migrate users. Therefore, let's create a new flow, where we ask users to update their password and explain why this is necessary. Sending to in prep.

[KatiVellak]

Legally reviewed, no additional comments.

[loorm]

First, I'm assuming this is still relevant. @tiblu, @ilmartyrk - is it?

If it is, then Mikk had this solution above:
"to just random generate new passwords for them which will force them to "Forgot password" flow and thus generating a new bcrypt in the DB. IF allowed, we can e-mail Users that we did it. The solution is the easisest and does not clutter the code."

Can we do this, minus the e-mail? Instead, notify these specific users with an in-app notification the next time they try to log in? Text could be: "Your previous password was less secure due to crypto algorithms developing over time. We have updated to more secure algorithms. Please click "Forgot password" to create a new, stronger password."

[tiblu]

@loorm @ilmartyrk

First, I'm assuming this is still relevant. @tiblu, @ilmartyrk - is it?

If it is, then Mikk had this solution above:
"to just random generate new passwords for them which will force them to "Forgot password" flow and thus generating a new bcrypt in the DB. IF allowed, we can e-mail Users that we did it. The solution is the easisest and does not clutter the code."

Can we do this, minus the e-mail? Instead, notify these specific users with an in-app notification the next time they try to log in? Text could be: "Your previous password was less secure due to crypto algorithms developing over time. We have updated to more secure algorithms. Please click "Forgot password" to create a new, stronger password."

Yes, still relevant.

Technically we can do an in-app notification, BUT I would not AS Users MAY think of it as a suspicious behavior. Maybe they were hacked? Maybe my password has leaked? But it's preventative action, none of the cases stated.

IF at the time of implementation, we find that there are too many Users logging in with password, so many that we do not want them all go through the "Forgot password" flow, we can use a different migration to new hash:

• For a transfer period, DB keeps both old and new password hash.
• IF there is no new password hash, we check against the old password. IF old password is valid, we generate new bcrypt password. DESTROY (delete/randomize) old password hash.
• IF there is a new bcrypt password hash, we ALWAYS check against the new password field.
• All new accounts have new password hashes.
• After a reasonable (tm) transfer time, like 1 year, we start checking ONLY new password (bcrypt) field in the API. We DROP old password hash column. Now, if someone logs in 1 year later, has no new password, they will go through forgot password sequence and I think it's acceptable.

I still prefer, if password using User numbers are acceptable, send everyone through forgot password flow.
OR at least have a short grace period, 3-6 months rather than 1 year.

[tiblu]

Date: 28.09.2021:

prod::DATABASE=> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM "Users";
 count 
-------
  8386

prod::DATABASE=> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM "UserConnections" WHERE "connectionId" = 'citizenos';
 count 
-------
  2512

By the numbers on the 28th of Sept 2021 29.95% of Users use or have used password to log in to Citizen OS.

[loorm]

@tiblu

We both agree, that making the change and sending these 2512 people through the "forgot password" flow is the way to go.

I think we also both agree, that you cannot send someone to "Forgot password" flow, if they haven't really forgotten their password, without giving them an explanation.

You would prefer to send the explanation via e-mail.
I don't believe in e-mails and would prefer to receive the notification in app, at the moment when it is most relevant (i.e. when I have started to log in). This would not be a message visible to all users at all times, just pops up for users with uld passwords, who need to update them. The message text should make the reason very clear, such as: "Your password is quite old, please update it to stay secure."

Is this a correct understanding of things? If it is, what is your argument for e-mail over in-app message?

[anettlinno]

Triage 63. Important update.

When user starts logging-in, we direct her to change her password through password-reset flow. There should also be explanatory text which explains that we are renewing our security systems and user has to change the password for any further action.

We inform users about the changes in notification/information bar in bottom of the page AND in password reset view as well, in case user enters via email invitation or link.

Est. dev. time 4 days. Sending this issue to To Do.