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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024 1

to clarify, I deleted the X278-BC03- prefix prior to running

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

Thanks. Gives a period to look at.
Will temporarily put this on hold while trying to look into the other more serious issue of RefindPlus hanging.

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

This one will need a few tests to find the breaking commit.
Please start with X277

X277-BOOTx64.zip

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

Joy!
1st try, you are talented-
23d25v2745.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

Unfortunately, not quite!

Just going through a Git Bisect process and all that gave was that the item had not yet been broken as at the commit the build was done on.

So, we have to move up the commit history a bit and test at another point:
X278-BC03-BOOTx64.zip

If this works, we move up again. If it fails, we try at the halfway point from the last passing one and cycle until the breaking commit is found. You can read up on Git Bisect on the web to understand the process.

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy, blank screen is back
23d25w2422.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

I see. Please try this instead.
X279-BC04-BOOTx64.zip

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (04), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice
23d25w5013.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

That's fine. Please try this.
X280-BC05-BOOTx64.zip

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (05), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.
Ran this twice. Doesn't seem to be updating logs.
Populating desktop with items took 75+ sec in Big Sur.

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

Thanks. Please try the attached two to close this aspect out.
X281-BOOTx64.zip

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (06), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.

Populating desktop with items nominal time in Big Sur.
23d26f3631.log

running 07 next

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (07), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.

Populating desktop with items took 80+ sec in Big Sur.
23d26f5016.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

The "All over the place" outcomes, along with the hang from before and manifesting on one unit but not another, point at a memory conflict issue. These are a PITA to nail down but let's see how far we get with a process I have used before.

Can you please run the attached pair and let me know how they do?
X281-BOOTx64.zip

Thanks

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

Glad to help troubleshoot these nasty bugs. Didn't realize the degree of sensitivity in memory conflicts developers need to work around.

no joy (B14), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.

Populating desktop with items nominal time in Big Sur (faster than Mojave).

23d26t3812.log

running T14 next

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (T14), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.

Populating desktop with items nominal time in Big Sur (faster than Mojave) but didn't resolve thumbnail images for another 50+ s. Mojave has no delay.

23d26t5707.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

OK. Those were a dead end. The memory conflict is not getting triggered on your machine any longer. I'll have to wait until I stumble on the cause or it manifests on mine or someone else's.

Let's try to see whether we can get more info on the BootCamp thing with X282. Rename to the usual name.
X282-BOOTx64-NPT.zip

NB: This outputs a detailed log and is therefore significantly slower to load.

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

no joy (NPT), blank screen gone, boots but no BC choice.

Populating desktop with items nominal time in Big Sur (faster than Mojave) no delay resolving thumbnail images.

23d26v0234.log

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

X283 should work. Please confirm.
X283-BOOTx64.zip

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

some joy :)
BC choice and successful boot into win7
23d26w0708.log

However, boots into Big Sur populating desktop with items 60+ s. Also notice finder issues, window movement, apple menu lack of stickiness, 'Favorites' items in window side-bar not blue.

23d26w2123.log

Getting closer? Sorry-

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

Sorry, but what happens in MacOS is not controlled by RefindPlus.

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

Mojave is fine.
'Favorites' items in window side-bar not blue is a Mojave 'feature' and a key diff Apple rolled into Big Sur (perhaps Catalina as well?) Ran this twice after BC/Win7 boot. Would you like me to boot controlled by RefindPlus again?

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

See my previous

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tjthrush avatar tjthrush commented on June 2, 2024

See my previous

??? Running Mojave is bypassing RefindPlus on my 5,1. Perhaps I'm not understanding your comment

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dakanji avatar dakanji commented on June 2, 2024

What I am saying is that whatever you are seeing in MacOS has no relationship to RefindPlus.
I suppose I should have mentioned this when you were giving feedback earlier on the time it takes to load stuff etc.

In summary, there is nothing further to test on this.
The separate memory conflict thing (already tagged as a known issue) will come out in the wash sooner or later.

Thanks for the multiple test runs. Much appreciated.

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github-actions avatar github-actions commented on June 2, 2024

This thread is being locked.

Please use the Discussions Feature for follow on discussion or raise a new issue if appropriate.

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