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sanjayankur31 avatar sanjayankur31 commented on July 19, 2024 2

There are automated pipelines that convert pages from different source to the asciidoc that the new website infrastructure uses. A large number of wiki pages were auto-converted, for example. The docs mailing list would be the best place to discuss this particular question.

Fedora Docs is not just technical release notes or the installation guide now. The idea of the new system is that any Fedora related documentation can be put up there, all in one place so that users can find all the info they need in one place. So, you'll see that the docs site has various bits---from how to use Fedora to do something, to the release notes, to quick recipes, to SOPs for various SIGs/teams. Quick docs literally is: "This is a collection of short HOWTO and FAQ style documentation for Fedora users".

So, I think it'll be much more useful if all the info here moves to docs for users to find in one place. Whether it gets absorbed into quick-docs or merits a different isolated repo can be discussed. It'll also mean that the effort that is being used to develop the portal here can be diverted to improving the docs projects, which will benefit all its consumers.

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hroncok avatar hroncok commented on July 19, 2024 1

This could at least solve the problem with deployment :)

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Jibec avatar Jibec commented on July 19, 2024 1

This would also allow localization team to translate the good content available here.

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pvalena avatar pvalena commented on July 19, 2024

Hello, the discussion of whether we should merge with docs aside (for now) - how, and who would convert, and merge it?

Note that the content of developer portal is not supposed to be docs, it is also not strictly related to Fedora content (but usage ON Fedora). We have also some extensions and tests (and the scriplet testing is WIP).

See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Developer#About_The_Project.

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sanjayankur31 avatar sanjayankur31 commented on July 19, 2024

As the wiki page for the dev portal lists the -devel list as the channel of communication, I've also started a thread here:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/ERIUN5KRWCV2Z46OI7ST5KCSSK2VESVF/

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pvalena avatar pvalena commented on July 19, 2024

If it's up to me (no notes from the other/previous maintainers), feel free to migrate the content.
I'd be hower sad to see the current functionality to go away, mainly:

  • mentions of individual page's authors
  • edit button on the page, leading to directly editing the page
  • web editor
  • no git knowledge needed to submit changes

Unfortunately, I don't have any spare cycles to do anything like that (I don't have much for the maintenance either).

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hroncok avatar hroncok commented on July 19, 2024

A month later, the website still shows very outdated content. If there is no reasonable way to solve that, I recommend that we migrate to Fedora docs instead. Showing outdated information to Fedora users is bad :/

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hroncok avatar hroncok commented on July 19, 2024

What can I do to move this forward?

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pvalena avatar pvalena commented on July 19, 2024

You're right, I didn't get around to fixing the build, sadly. I have one new interested maintainer though, so the build frequency may get better.

If you want to help with fixing the builds ASAP, there is PR #104 .

WRT the migration, I wasn't fully convinced (I consider the conversation ongoing), but I won't be blocking it if it's the generally favored solution. However I do not have cycles required to realize it.

More info in the ML conversation:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/OYG2XESOXWWB56V57LWNMQQB5KJ3JVOZ/

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pvalena avatar pvalena commented on July 19, 2024

FYI new release is coming. Builds (releases) are now semi-automated, and use Fedora in container:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/NKYSVEDIZYFTJXINAU7WFNZLQE5XR33A/

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hroncok avatar hroncok commented on July 19, 2024

Awesome!

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pvalena avatar pvalena commented on July 19, 2024

Closing, as there're multiple unanswered questions WRT migration plan (and lack of someone who will take ownership thereof).

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