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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024 1

This is fun

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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024

Also, do we actually need ranges ? Just positive would be enough ? It also doesn't cover the minimum precision (0.1 cd/m² or 0.001 cd/m²) ?

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retokromer avatar retokromer commented on June 15, 2024

Hmm… intuitively, I would say that for luminance positive is enough, but the precision should be added.

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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024

IMO just saying they must be positive is enough. You don't know what precision people will want to store. Namely for scientific recordings they would record the sun or very few photons in dark environments. We should be able to handle that and not reject such files. Negative luminance doesn't make much sense though.

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retokromer avatar retokromer commented on June 15, 2024

Yep, agreed: let’s go for positive only.

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dericed avatar dericed commented on June 15, 2024

ping to @FrankGalligan

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retokromer avatar retokromer commented on June 15, 2024

FYI: I asked two of my former students working on scientific imaging (at CERN and EPFL). Both support positive only and both suggest to give the possibility (not mandatory) to store also the precision.

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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024

The problem with the precision is that it's really dependent on the float format and the actual value. I don't think current video standards define the precision, just the range. The lower bound can be seen as a precision but it's not.

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retokromer avatar retokromer commented on June 15, 2024

I understand plenty your argument, but in the scientific world a value without a precision is not one. That said, I am personally fine with positive only.

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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024

I think for scientific purpose the precision of the instrument would be stored separately. The precision may also vary depending on the value (low range, mid range, high range).

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retokromer avatar retokromer commented on June 15, 2024

The idea is to store as much as possible with the file itself. That’s also my dream e.g. for the LUTs and the sensor’s metadata that determine the «raw» data – this defines the way the data are cooked.

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robUx4 avatar robUx4 commented on June 15, 2024

Fixed after the merged changes.

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