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Short answer: It's faster and simpler, and that is just how it was originally written.
Long answer:
These are all good points, but at the end of the day I'm not really confident that a rewrite is worth it. Also usually this sort of things causes a perf hit due to extra state being passed around everywhere, or the presence of extra pointer dereferencing and extra arguments. If I were to start over from scratch I might create a global context object (mostly for ease of implementation, the creation of sub-contexts is straightforward), but there are downsides. And just because a context object would help people attach custom Zig and C++ event loops doesn't mean that that is a good idea - Janet has it's own and they would conflict (the whole idea of frameworks with pluggable event loops seems completely insane to me).
Coroutines on a multithreaded event loop, à la Zig, C++: there was previously discussion of a save/restore mechanism that would address this
Since Janet comes with it's own event loop (for better or for worse), this is really not something I want to address. However, save restore functionality works right now with janet_vm_save
and janet_vm_load
(see state.c). As pointed out though, this is not quite as nice if you are for some reason trying to embed in strange way. I feel like there is some circumstances where this just doesn't work but I can't think of any offhand.
And if we agree, I think it's better to do it sooner rather than later.
Unfortunately, it's not that soon from my perspective. This kind of argument always comes up when people are new to a project. That said, I think it would be a moderate but tedious effort to thread the JanetVM * object as the first argument to all functions, and then some more effort to make some things more idiomatic (I would also be curious on the perf impact - my guess would be small but measurable, like 5%).
But I think you will also find that certain things like signals require setting up some implicit global or per-thread state anyway.
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That said, I think it would be a moderate but tedious effort to thread the JanetVM * object as the first argument to all functions, ...
Now I know semgrep, this should be easier.
My prior attempt at making GC functions use a context: #1199
Since Janet comes with it's own event loop (for better or for worse), this is really not something I want to address.
I often use Janet to process data, and the event loop is not needed. One example project I have is an HTTP server that runs some processing (need JanetVM) on every request. The current is API is usable, but I often forget to switch VM so I ended up creating a new VM on every request.
The language I use has defer
so I can use defer c.janet_vm_save(&vm);
. In C, error handling would be messier, since you have to save the VM state if you want to use it further (other requests might reset thread-local VM).
If the host language has its own event loop thread-switching (like Go), then the current API cannot be used easily (need janet_vm_save/load
on context switching).
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