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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

@Ibab642 and @crazycub212 :

Please review my research on adding verses to Abide With Me and let me know what you think. My recommendation is contained in the README.md file.

The research is in the abide_with_me/README.md

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crazycub212 avatar crazycub212 commented on August 26, 2024

I definitely agree with the inclusion of the verses in general, and the
specific ones you chose. Very much agreed. I also agree with keeping the
language as is. Thanks! (This about Abide With Me).

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Please review my research on adding verses to Abide With Me and let me
know what you think. My recommendation is contained in the README.md file.

The research is in the abide_with_me/README.md
https://github.com/Jim-Duke/bumbyextras/tree/master/Source/abide_with_me/README.md


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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

@Ibab642 - Please review my research on adding verses to Abide With Me and let me know what you think. My recommendation is contained in the README.md file. Please post the results of your review in a comment to the issue. You can do that by simply replying to the automatic email you should receive. Or you can add a comment to the issue directly here.

The research is in the abide_with_me/README.md

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Ibab642 avatar Ibab642 commented on August 26, 2024

I love the words of this song but it has taken me some time to think of
them this way. I was not one to go to church services only for weddings and
funerals growing up but the only time abide with me was sung would be at
funerals. So I fight to dismiss the thought of funerals when singing it.
Nevertheless, I agree with the recommendation.

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@Ibab642 https://github.com/Ibab642 - Please review my research on
adding verses to Abide With Me and let me know what you think. My
recommendation is contained in the README.md file. Please post the results
of your review in a comment to the issue. You can do that by simply
replying to the automatic email you should receive. Or you can add a
comment to the issue directly here
#18.

The research is in the abide_with_me/README.md
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pianoman5001 avatar pianoman5001 commented on August 26, 2024

I used the following rubric for the review:

  1. Copyright is correct
  2. CCLI information is correct
  3. Composer and Poet is correct
  4. Notes are correct
  5. Words are correct
  6. Layout looks good
  7. Music and words on slides look big enough and are easy to read

My Review:

  1. Public domain
  2. Public domain, song number in CCLI is 43190
  3. Yes
  4. Yes
  5. Word Conflicts are taken from the Sumphonia song book and google searches for this sheet music
  • 1st verse, 1st system: I saw many renditions that have "Abide with me!" ending with an exclamation mark
  • 2nd verse, 2nd system: "Its" should not be capitalized
  • 2nd verse, 4th system: This is the only verse that ends with an exclamation mark
  • 3rd verse, 3rd system: Should "Who like Thyself my guide.." be "Who, like Thyself, my guide..."?
  • 3rd verse, 4th system: I cannot find another sheet music that uses "Thru". Most use "Thro'" while the CCLI song lyrics use "Through". I think either "Through" or "Thro'" should be used. I also found very few other sources where "Lord" is used; I think "O" should be used instead per the CCLI song lyrics.
  • 5th verse, 2nd system: Same comment here about "Thru". This line should also end with a period.
  1. Layout looks good for songbook format and the slides. Are we going to have the song title show up only on the title slide?
  2. Yes

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TDuke94 avatar TDuke94 commented on August 26, 2024

Slide observation:

Using Two scripture verses on the title page looks odd, particularly because the same amount of space separates the verse in Luke from the non-quoted portion of 1 Cor. - perhaps reduce the spacing between the two portions of 1 Cor. to closer associate these two on the slide.

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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

Made several changes to address the problems found in the reviews.  I also updated the README.md file to include an additional source (scans of a hymnal from 1880 with all the original verses); as well as to revise the recommendation to use the verses from this source. Changes include:

  • Revised spacing of biblical verses on title slide to make the two separate verses more clear as suggested by @TDuke94 .
  • Thickened staff lines on slides slightly.
  • Revised all the spellings/capitalization/punctuation to match the new referenced source. This sources uses exclamation points as suggested by @pianoman5001 .
  • Adjusted all spacing/word separation/margins to align with new standards.
  • Additional space allowed a 6th verse to be added; chose to insert verse 4 from the original. That will fall between verses 2 and 3 of the first version of our hymn.
  • Additional space allowed me to use the full spelling of "Through".
  • Created part dominant practice MIDI's; and converted them to MP3's as well. For part dominant versions, I placed the dominant part in the right channel at full volume, and all the other parts in the left channel at half volume.

To answer @pianoman5001 on Titles on slides. Yes, we will only include the title of the song on the Title slide for the song. This gave use more room for the music and eliminated several problems that were occurring on songs with longer titles.

The review materials have been updated. But be sure to also consult the updated README.md.

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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

Posted on behalf of @timcaldwell
Comments are embedded in the attached PDF file:
Abide With Me - With Tim Caldwell Comments.pdf

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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

Changes in response to @timcaldwell 's comments:

  • 1st System: the period after "hour" was already changed to a colon based upon some older source versions. I believe the colon makes more sense than the semicolon based upon what I think was intended by the verse.

  • 2nd System: I confirmed that the chord in the 3rd measure is correct; I had already added a comma after "Lord", and had changed the period to an exclamation point.  Prefer using the exclamation point, particularly given the use of them in many other places where the thought of God abiding with me uses an exclamation point.

  • 3rd System: After examining about 60 hymnals (hymnary is great), about half put commas in "Who, like Thyself, my guide"; about half didn't. Slightly more favored leaving them out. However, when singing that passage I greatly prefer the commas in place. They really aide the meaning of that phrase I think. The semicolon after see vs a dash.  After examining at least 100 hymns - only one used a dash. Most of the others used a semicolon, with the use of a colon a distant 2nd, and the use of a period even less common. I prefer keeping the semicolon.

  • 4th System: The rest of the song uses the simple spelling "O" instead of "Oh". And in examining many other hymnals the use of "O" is by far the most common spelling. All the ending words now end with an exclamation point.

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timcaldwell avatar timcaldwell commented on August 26, 2024

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pianoman5001 avatar pianoman5001 commented on August 26, 2024

I think this song is good. The only comment would be about the combining of voices but I don't think it's much of an issue for this song. I think this issue can be closed.

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Jim-Duke avatar Jim-Duke commented on August 26, 2024

I'm reluctant to make the slides different from the sheet music. I've opened an issue to combine parts on all the songs where voices share a staff (Issue #34)

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