Why is the fine-tuning performance much lower than benchmark in paper?

[microsoft]

Why is the fine-tuning performance much lower than benchmark in paper?

[ArrowLuo]

Hi, I guess your results are obtained from YoucookII. If you run on the youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle directly, the scores you got are right under the condition of your hyperparameters. Our best scores are generated with the transcript. The youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle is a version without the transcript. Read the readme file to get the below information:

If using video only as input (youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle),
The results are close to
BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117
METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049, CIDEr: 1.2725

You should compare your scores with the third line from the bottom in Table 3 in our paper.

[lokeaichirou]

Hi, I guess your results are obtained from YoucookII. If you run on the youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle directly, the scores you got are right under the condition of your hyperparameters. Our best scores are generated with the transcript. The youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle is a version without the transcript. Read the readme file to get the below information:

If using video only as input (youcookii_data.no_transcript.pickle),
The results are close to
BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117
METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049, CIDEr: 1.2725

You should compare your scores with the third line from the bottom in Table 3 in our paper.

Hi, @ArrowLuo , thanks for your information. In fact, in Table 3 of the paper, the scores for single V as input are: B-3: 16.46, B_4: 11.17, M: 17.57, R-L: 40.09, CIDEr: 1.27. It is much larger than these: BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117, METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049, CIDEr: 1.2725. So may I know is the above scores obtained by better hyper-parameter setting or something else?

[ArrowLuo]

Sorry for the confusion. These metrics are printed with real value and reported with percentages in the paper (except CIDEr). So your scores are right.

[lokeaichirou]

Sorry for the confusion. These metrics are printed with real value and reported with percentages in the paper (except CIDEr). So your scores are right.

Hi, @ArrowLuo , so the metrics printed by program is correct, so may I know is all the metrics in Table 3 in paper are normalized? meaning metrics for all the models involved in table. And how do you normalize it? Because I am lack of sense on the performance by these pre-normalizaed metrics: BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117, METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049 , sicne I desire to make a comparison with those in paper. Many thanks~

[ArrowLuo]

Not normalization operation. Just need to multiply 100 on these metrics (except for CIDEr).
For example, the print is:

BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117, METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049

the scores after multiplying 100:

BLEU_1: 39.21, BLEU_2: 25.22, BLEU_3: 16.55, BLEU_4: 11.17, METEOR: 17.69, ROUGE_L: 40.49

[lokeaichirou]

Not normalization operation. Just need to multiply 100 on these metrics (except for CIDEr).
For example, the print is:

BLEU_1: 0.3921, BLEU_2: 0.2522, BLEU_3: 0.1655, BLEU_4: 0.1117, METEOR: 0.1769, ROUGE_L: 0.4049

the scores after multiplying 100:

BLEU_1: 39.21, BLEU_2: 25.22, BLEU_3: 16.55, BLEU_4: 11.17, METEOR: 17.69, ROUGE_L: 40.49

Hi, @ArrowLuo , many thanks! got it. However, I found there is a mismatch of metrics scores in Univl paper with E2E masked transformer for dense video captioning original paper. In their paper, their scores are:
Method GT Proposals Learned Proposals
B4 M B4 M
Bi-LSTM +TempoAttn 0.87 8.15 0.08 4.62
Our Method 1.42 11.20 0.30 6.58

While in Univl paper, Table 3, B4 : 4.38, M:11.55 for E2E masked transformer. Is this result obtained by your experiments based on their released model, and utilizing ground-truth proposals during inference?

[ArrowLuo]

These part of baseline results are copied from Table 4 in https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.05743.pdf. I notice that it is indeed different from the original paper.

[lokeaichirou]

These part of baseline results are copied from Table 4 in https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.05743.pdf. I notice that it is indeed different from the original paper.

Ok, I see, thanks!