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seesharprun avatar seesharprun commented on July 29, 2024

There's two conflicting "schools of thought" here.

  1. Repetition will help developers learn to use the Cloud Shell and CLI without having to look up each command. It's a cornerstone of many different learning methodologies.
  2. Repetition unnecessarily pads the length of the lab by a minute or so. It can easily be the case that the students skip over these steps after the first couple of labs.

I would love to get some more feedback from the MCT community on this. Is the repetition good or bad?

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seesharprun avatar seesharprun commented on July 29, 2024

Any other MCTs want to give feedback?

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VitalyMCT avatar VitalyMCT commented on July 29, 2024

My feedback was less about repetition of these 2 commands between labs and more about them being unnecessary in the first place.

The objective of the lab cleanup step is to delete the RG. It's not to learn the syntax of the "az group" command or to see what RGs happen to exist in the subscription. Those are all interesting tangents, sure. However, they are unnecessary to accomplish the mission.

Here's an example of all I think we need here. It's taken from AZ-900 labs. We just need to reword it from Azure Portal to "az":

Note: To avoid additional costs, you can remove this resource group. Search for resource groups, click your resource group, and then click Delete resource group. Verify the name of the resource group and then click Delete. Monitor the Notifications to see how the delete is proceeding.

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seesharprun avatar seesharprun commented on July 29, 2024

I didn't see any feedback from other MCTs so I will address what you said.

The note in AZ-900 is not descriptive enough to be considered a lab step, it's simply a suggestion.

In AZ-204, we made the decision to make deleting the resource group an explicit lab step and that means there are a few things that must be included:

  1. A step to open the Cloud Shell
  2. Steps to configure the Cloud Shell if you have never opened it before
  3. A single step to run the az group delete --name --no-wait --yes command
  4. A step to close the active applications

Any less than that, and the exercise will fail our test pass.

To accommodate your request, I removed the two instructions that had you run az group list and az group delete --help since those aren't absolutely necessary.

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