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igr avatar igr commented on June 2, 2024

Just wondering: why to go with the 1.0f factor? This way we are using the DEFAULT_LOAD_FACTOR of 0.75f.

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wnjustdoit avatar wnjustdoit commented on June 2, 2024

The same to jodd.cache.FIFOCache and jodd.cache.LRUCache. If loadFactor less than 1.0f, It leads to additional capacity expansion when the capacity can't be fully utilized.

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neroux avatar neroux commented on June 2, 2024

If loadFactor less than 1.0f, It leads to additional capacity expansion when the capacity can't be fully utilized.

As it does when it exceeds 1.0f.

There is a reason why Sun decided to go with 0.75f

As a general rule, the default load factor (.75) offers a good tradeoff between time and space costs. Higher values decrease the space overhead but increase the lookup cost (reflected in most of the operations of the HashMap class, including get and put).

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wnjustdoit avatar wnjustdoit commented on June 2, 2024

Perhaps you didn't recognize my real problem. When Map is initialized, its capacity is fixed, then this does not matter with any space costs.
cacheMap = new HashMap<>(maxSize + 1, 1.0f); This makes no costs later after it's be initialized. Right?

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neroux avatar neroux commented on June 2, 2024

I am not sure what you mean by "fixed". That is the initial capacity.

Can you elaborate how Sun was wrong with their standard approach?

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wnjustdoit avatar wnjustdoit commented on June 2, 2024

Not Sun's problem. Maybe my English is poor..

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neroux avatar neroux commented on June 2, 2024

Well, you are saying that Sun's default value is an issue.

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wnjustdoit avatar wnjustdoit commented on June 2, 2024

Not yet. Waiting for another one to answer my question...

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igr avatar igr commented on June 2, 2024

I believe that since we should not allow more then maxSize elements, the Map internal size should be limited to this number as well. Otherwise, once when we reach 75% the HashMap will grow, but we can use only remaining 25%, and not the rest.

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neroux avatar neroux commented on June 2, 2024

Not yet? That is what you have been saying and it would be good to know why you disagree with Sun.

@igr, I am not sure I quite follow.

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igr avatar igr commented on June 2, 2024

Sorry @neroux didn't explain myself.

So what is going on here is that we don't need any factor, as we have initial size that never gets resized.

What @wnjustdoit says is that he assumes that initial size is less then maxSize. In such case he would be correct: if e.g. maxSize is 100, and initial size is 60, when we add element 61, the internal size would grow > 100.

@wnjustdoit since we are setting the initial seize to be max+1, the internal resize would never happened. agree?:)

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neroux avatar neroux commented on June 2, 2024

Thanks for the summary, @igr. Yeah, that should never be an issue in the first place and to be fair, even 0.75f shouldn't be an issue.

Again, Sun's stance on that :)

As a general rule, the default load factor (.75) offers a good tradeoff between time and space costs. Higher values decrease the space overhead but increase the lookup cost (reflected in most of the operations of the HashMap class, including get and put).

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wnjustdoit avatar wnjustdoit commented on June 2, 2024

@igr So what's the conclusion?

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igr avatar igr commented on June 2, 2024

Since it is not really an issue, this should be closed @wnjustdoit ... let me know if I am missing something :)

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