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raymond91125 avatar raymond91125 commented on August 17, 2024

In MA and FBbt, muscles of the intestine are related to intestines with part_of. Thus, I am reluctant to remove this relationship in WBbt. It may be prudent to inquire Daniela to see if her curation practices are consistent with the intent of the ontology structure. But I don't think WBbt is wrong in this regard.

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chris-grove avatar chris-grove commented on August 17, 2024

Hmm, OK. Yes, I do think we should consult Daniela as well. I guess I feel there is then a discrepancy between the existing definitions of intestine and one in which the intestinal muscle would be included as part. For example, the WormAtlas glossary for intestine:

https://www.wormatlas.org/glossary/iglossary.htm#intestine

The definition of "intestine" begins:
"A chain of very large cuboidal cells which all descend from a common precursor, the E founder cell and form a wide central lumen lined by many microvilli that form a brush border. Food passes from the posterior pharynx to the intestine where it is digested and then on to the rectum which processes the waste products for excretion."

I don't see any part of the definition in WormAtlas or within the anatomy ontology itself that suggests that it includes the muscle component. There is the WormAtlas definition for "Gut":

https://www.wormatlas.org/glossary/gglossary.htm#gut

that reads:

"A general term which may refer both to the intestine and to related muscles and valves which regulate intake or outflow of its contents."

which may be a more appropriate part_of parent for intestinal muscle. I guess my biggest issue with it is that when people use WOBr to extract intestinally-expressed genes, I would think they are looking for genes expressed in the int cells (derived from E, as in the definition), not the intestinal muscle cells.

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raymond91125 avatar raymond91125 commented on August 17, 2024

Intestinal cell WBbt:0005792 is for those who look for exclusively E-derived cell gene expression. Perhaps WA's intestine definition is more in line with the fact that not all nematode intestines have associated muscles. Perhaps gut in nematodes is a better counterpart of intestine in mammals.

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chris-grove avatar chris-grove commented on August 17, 2024

OK, yeah, that makes sense

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chris-grove avatar chris-grove commented on August 17, 2024

@raymond91125
Can we revisit this after our discussion with David Hall?

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