Keyboard commands for editing and navigation

[phase1geo]

Keyboard commands for editing and navigation

[phase1geo]

• There currently are no keyboard commands for moving rows. I'll add support for Control-Up/Down to do this.
• Keyboard command for editing a note is Shift-E.
• When you mean move the cursor, are you referring to changing the currently selected row or the editing cursor?

[waldyrious]

I would like these shortcuts to be customizable, if possible.

[jaslar]

Yes, I'm referring to navigation by structure. For instance, I'd like to be able to move UP the hierarchy, from the middle of a list to its parent. It seems like hitting esc, then U for up would work. Or N for Next (sibling row). H for Hoist (make the current row the top row.) B for Beginning, E for End (or Top/Bottom). Outlines are so good for long documents that keyboard commands for shipping around are really useful. The other great outliner command is move/gather: mark some arbitrary number of rows (T for Tag?), then a command to gather them in a new location (G for Gather?) But I LOVE the word count! Absent in too many outliners!

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On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 6:18 PM Trevor Williams ***@***.***> wrote: - There currently are no keyboard commands for moving rows. I'll add support for Control-Up/Down to do this. - Keyboard command for editing a note is Shift-E. - When you mean move the cursor, are you referring to changing the currently selected row or the editing cursor? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#12 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMDL7NBM6FCUZIF2XD57QDDRKZ4EHANCNFSM4L4OIMAA> .

[phase1geo]

Thanks for the clarification.

There are a few existing shortcuts that do what you are asking for:

• 'a' will take you to the next level up in the hierarchy. I used 'a' (which stands for "ancestor") because that is the same keyboard shortcut I used in Minder (mind-mapping application). However, I think that 'u' makes more sense, so I will change it in the next version.
• 'm' will select the top-level "main" row that contains the currently selected row.
• The up/down arrows (or 'k' and 'j', respectively) will move the selection up and down the document.

I'm in the process of adding support for more keyboard shortcuts. Here are a few of them:

• PageUp/PageDown will move the document up or down by a page, changing the selected row to be within the page.
• 'T' will take you to the top of the document, selecting the first row.
• 'B' will take you to the bottom of the document, selecting the last row.
• Holding down the Control key while using most of the traversal keyboard shortcuts will move the currently selected row (and any rows within it) to the new position.

And finally a few questions/comments:

• I'm assuming that the hoist command will adjust the scroll position of the document to place the currently selected row at the top of the page, correct?
• I really like the idea of gathering selected rows. Outliner currently doesn't have support for selecting more than one row at a time, but it will. This will be a nice capability to add when it does.

Thanks for all of the great feedback!

[phase1geo]

Okay, I need to make a quick amendment to the previous post. The 'm' command isn't working (it will cause the application to crash (doh!) I will get that fixed right away.

[jaslar]

First, Trevor, let me thank you again for developing this. I've been using outliners since the 1980s, and find them to be the best tools for writing longer pieces. My favorites: KAMAS (once CP/M, then DOS, 64K file, written in assembly), Grandview, Notecase Pro, tkoutline, emacs org-mode, Workflowy, Dynalist. I also hang out on outlinersoftware.com, where there are some serious and highly informed fans of outlining generally. So the balance is to find something that fits well with elementaryOS -- clear, clean, straightforward -- and accommodates some part of the bewildering array of functions some people want. This is a great first try, and I'm grateful for it. A few observations: - By pressing Esc, you open up this second set of commands, modal, I guess, that have a lot of potential - "A" is fine, and I see the advantage of similar commands across the outliner and minder. I didn't see that in the shortcuts. But it's great. You need to know that when it's the top level, pressing A crashes the app, too. - j and k are handy, but they don't move the selection, they just move the cursor. They move the selectOR? - Expanding and revealing with arrow keys. That's ok, but it would be nice to be able to hit it again on the same node, and expand the next level of the outline for those heading under the current one. Left arrow might collapse by level, too. This would be like hitting Tab in org-mode, allowing one to cycle through levels of display. - I don't think I understand what you're trying to do with "m." Select the entire tree back to its first ancestor? If I escape, and can go to the Top, I've selected it, haven't I? - T and B are great, as are page down and up. - LOVE the idea of adding control to edit the structure. So I select a tree by highlighting it, type Ctrl-A, and it becomes a sibling of the current ancestor. Right? I still think you need a "n" for next, or would Ctrl-J do the same thing? - Hoist. Yes,"adjust the scroll position of the document to place the currently selected row at the top of the page." - Mark and Gather. One of the more elegant ways to do this without having multiple selections is to mark a bin, then move to bin. So for instance, I have a list of grocery products all at the same level. I create three new items: Aisle1, Aisle2, Aisle3. I go to the first line and type the number 1, which now appears to the left of the line. Then I go to the other nodes and use, for instance, G1 (goto the first bin). Or Ctrl-1. And the item refiles under 1. But figuring out a way to gather selected rows together would be cool. - missing editing command. Ctrl-Backspace is a handy one to delete a previous word. Isn't that standard? - join headlines? I noticed I can break a node into two by hitting return in the middle of a node. But there's no way to join them again? At any rate, I'm happy to contribute to this product when it hits the AppCenter, and please do keep plugging away at it. It gives me joy! (I also bought your Minder program, which is quite elegant, although it too crashes on occasion.) Thanks again! Jamie

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On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:32 AM Trevor Williams ***@***.***> wrote: Thanks for the clarification. There are a few existing shortcuts that do what you are asking for: - 'a' will take you to the next level up in the hierarchy. I used 'a' (which stands for "ancestor") because that is the same keyboard shortcut I used in Minder (mind-mapping application). However, I think that 'u' makes more sense, so I will change it in the next version. - 'm' will select the top-level "main" row that contains the currently selected row. - The up/down arrows (or 'k' and 'j', respectively) will move the selection up and down the document. I'm in the process of adding support for more keyboard shortcuts. Here are a few of them: - PageUp/PageDown will move the document up or down by a page, changing the selected row to be within the page. - 'T' will take you to the top of the document, selecting the first row. - 'B' will take you to the bottom of the document, selecting the last row. - Holding down the Control key while using most of the traversal keyboard shortcuts will move the currently selected row (and any rows within it) to the new position. And finally a few questions/comments: - I'm assuming that the hoist command will adjust the scroll position of the document to place the currently selected row at the top of the page, correct? - I really like the idea of gathering selected rows. Outliner currently doesn't have support for selecting more than one row at a time, but it will. This will be a nice capability to add when it does. Thanks for all of the great feedback! — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#12 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMDL7NCK3K4W7MBI66G5L2DRK5OLTANCNFSM4L4OIMAA> .

[phase1geo]

I'll attempt to respond to a few items that you have noted above:

• I have the application crash bug solved when pressing 'a' when a top-level row is selected. I am planning on releasing a 1.0.4 version fairly soon and this fix will be a part of it.

• 'j' and 'k' change the selection only. Control-j and Control-k will move the selected row up or down. The latter functionality is in one of my development branches which will come up in the 1.1 release.

• Expander functionality improvements -- terrific ideas. Probably will be available in the 1.1 release as well.

• I'm going to get rid of the 'm' selection command. Essentially, given the following example outline:

* Main Point 1
    * ...
* Main Point 2
    * Subpoint
        * Sub-subpoint

If "Sub-subpoint" is selected, the 'm' command will cause "Main Point 2" to be selected. Having this command in Minder makes a ton of sense since it will cause the root node of a mind-map tree to be selected which can be useful. In an outline, probably not so much.

• I have added Control-a and Control-Shift-a commands which will move the currently selected row (and subtree) below or above the row's ancestor row, respectively.

• I have the hoist command implemented in a development branch. Will most likely be released with 1.1 changes.

• Thanks for clarifying the method of binning. This is very interesting from a UI perspective. I will have to think about this type of implementation. Sounds pretty cool! I think that I'm going to create a separate issue to track this feature enhancement as its implementation is a bit more involved than some of the other requests mentioned in this issue.

• I am adding the missing Control-Backspace and Control-Delete commands. I will probably add this functionality to the 1.0.4 release.

I appreciate the support! I see the application is now available on AppCenter although I don't see it showing up on the home page at this point. Hopefully, it show up on the home page at least for a short while so that people are aware that it is there. I noticed that screenshots are missing on the application page so I will be remedying that in the 1.0.4 release.

[jaslar]

Fantastic news all around. Thank you!

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On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:57 PM Trevor Williams ***@***.***> wrote: I'll attempt to respond to a few items that you have noted above: - I have the application crash bug solved when pressing 'a' when a top-level row is selected. I am planning on releasing a 1.0.4 version fairly soon and this fix will be a part of it. - 'j' and 'k' change the selection only. Control-j and Control-k will move the selected row up or down. The latter functionality is in one of my development branches which will come up in the 1.1 release. - Expander functionality improvements -- terrific ideas. Probably will be available in the 1.1 release as well. - I'm going to get rid of the 'm' selection command. Essentially, given the following example outline: * Main Point 1 * ... * Main Point 2 * Subpoint * Sub-subpoint If "Sub-subpoint" is selected, the 'm' command will cause "Main Point 2" to be selected. Having this command in Minder makes a ton of sense since it will cause the root node of a mind-map tree to be selected which can be useful. In an outline, probably not so much. - I have added Control-a and Control-Shift-a commands which will move the currently selected row (and subtree) below or above the row's ancestor row, respectively. - I have the hoist command implemented in a development branch. Will most likely be released with 1.1 changes. - Thanks for clarifying the method of binning. This is very interesting from a UI perspective. I will have to think about this type of implementation. Sounds pretty cool! I think that I'm going to create a separate issue to track this feature enhancement as its implementation is a bit more involved than some of the other requests mentioned in this issue. - I am adding the missing Control-Backspace and Control-Delete commands. I will probably add this functionality to the 1.0.4 release. I appreciate the support! I see the application is now available on AppCenter although I don't see it showing up on the home page at this point. Hopefully, it show up on the home page at least for a short while so that people are aware that it is there. I noticed that screenshots are missing on the application page so I will be remedying that in the 1.0.4 release. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#12 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AMDL7NAEZVYXX6I5QYQTSBLRK6UMPANCNFSM4L4OIMAA> .

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[phase1geo]

I am updating the state of this bug to fixed in the development release of the application which will be generally available in the next stable release. Any feature enhancements from this issue which have not been added to the development branch have their own issues to track their progress.