Mismatching TextQuoteSelector and TextPositionSelector

[recogito]

Mismatching TextQuoteSelector and TextPositionSelector

[Apeli]

That would be the place to do the normalization. I'll try to find time to find out which browsers add weird nbsp characters and if there's a way to detect them with js.

[chris-aeviator]

The 5 sec timeout makes recogito set the annotation correctly - I will try to investigate how to get to a 'networkLoadingFinished' event and share my results here

[rsimon]

Have you tried toggling the mode: pre init setting? Without that, the offset corresponds to the char offset in the markup, including newlines and extra whitespace that the browser doesn't render.

With preenabled, Recogito normalizes the markup, so that it's a correct representation of the rendered markup.

My gut feeling its that browsers my act different without pre. But I frankly didn't have any reports yet. (Probably because not too much cross browser testing has happened.)

Just to confirm: your site doesn't add any surrounding works elements that differ between browsers?

Is there any pattern or regular behavior your can observe with the offsets?

[rsimon]

PS: BTW (may or my not be related...) I had an intriguing case once, where there were offset shifts. The shifts increased the further down they were in the document. The reason was related to the original markup file containing a mix of line break encodings: \r\n vs \n (or "LF" vs "CRLF").

All browsers seemed fine when the markup files had line breaks encoded as only linebreaks, or as only carriage return+linebreak. But documents with a mix of both encodings would cause some browsers to count CRLF as two characters, thus shifting the offsets by one extra char for every CRLF. (I think Chrome was fine, but not the others. Or maybe vice versa.)

[Apeli]

Thanks @rsimon for the last comment - It seems that different browsers handle line breaks but also non-breaking spaces differently. But the actual difference is really, really hard to find...

I tried changing the mode but that didn't help, as we're working with html text.

[rsimon]

Interesting. Is it possible on your end to normalize the output for the affected characters?

Alternatively, I think, the normalization could also happen inside RecogitoJS, in the HTML normalization code here:
https://github.com/recogito/recogito-js/blob/main/src/utils/index.js

It might be just a list of replace directives. (But, obviously, the hard work would be to figure out which characters need replacing...)

Regarding pre: sorry, I got that the wrong way around. The HTML normalization happens in normal mode, while the in pre, the original markup character offsets are retained. I.e. in your case, not using pre is the right way.

[chris-aeviator]

I never get the same positon in text with mode: 'pre' nor with mode: 'html'

To reproduce:

I'm selecting the text and saving the annoation, I copy the console.log'ed annotation object and try to re-create it with r.addAnnotation(copiedAnnotation)

I create this manually (on screen)

This is what Recogito does on the r.addAnnotation() call for the same annotation data

I want to be able to use recogito on a broad range of websites, so a per-example adjustment is not working for me. How can I achieve that recogito reliably displays the same selection?

[rsimon]

That definitely looks like a lot more than the small small offsets that would be caused by browser differences. My guess is that your Web page is dynamically populated with text snippets loading asynchronously, and there's a timing issue where Recogito is already rendering annotations at the stored offsets, while some text before the annotation hasn't actually loaded yet. (Thus pushing the annotation down by a paragraph or so when it's loading.)

Do you have control over the loading sequence of the text, and can reliably wait with initializing Recogito until everything has loaded?

Another alternative would be to init multiple Recogito instances, one per paragraph. (But then you'd be responsible yourself of course to associate the annotations with the right paragraph during load.)

At least that's what I can guess. Not much else I can think of without knowing more about what's going on in the host web page. But dynamic loading would obviously cause trouble inevitably.

[chris-aeviator]

so what I'm doing is not initialzing recogito until the DOMContentLoaded event, which might not take into account network connections beeing open/waiting for replies. Thanks for the explaination of how you perceive my issue, I will try to find more reliable solutions than just waiting for the DOM, I'll try a 5s timeout and see if my issue disappears.

EDIT: I'm using as the element, since I'm working with random external websites, so I cannot find a div ID for each website.

[rsimon]

Great, yes - the 5s wait will at least confirm (or not) whether async loading is indeed the issue. Do you happen to have a public URL for one of the websites you are trying this on? Then I can take a look and see if I can find anything.

[Apeli]

Finally we found out the culprit - we use a TipTap wysiwyg editor where users can input their answers and if you copypaste stuff from Google Docs, it includes weird whitespace symbols, especially one that turns into "\u00a0". Some browsers (haven't been able to confirm which) handle it differently, some render it as "regular" whitespace, some as whitespace symbols, which ultimately caused the issue. After stripping out the nasty spaces, all is well.

[rsimon]

Yikes... in fact now that you mention it: I think I had a similar case once with people copy-and-pasting text from MS Word. I wonder if it's worth filtering in RecogitoJS, or whether that's something that should be considered out of scope. If so, it should probably be an operation during "deflating" the HTML here.