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srg320 avatar srg320 commented on August 28, 2024
Rams with 4 chips

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srg320 avatar srg320 commented on August 28, 2024

Is this an official module? Is there a schematic of the module?

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

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srg320 avatar srg320 commented on August 28, 2024

It is important how the CS signals of all the chips are connected, I can only find this out from the schematic of the module.

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

Ok schematics are not publicly available.
I have been told this:

That's I am using pair of 32M8 chips instead single 32M16 chip. The rest
is the same

And if you are interested to know if this is a workable solution ( all antonio villena designs are based on this ) i can buy you a module to test.

Again, i don't pretend or think this module to be supported, i have 2 misters, and if this module is not compatible i can just use the other one.

I m asking because i m getting subpar results on testing, i can NEVER get out of the bios and load anything, all i managed to see is a couple seconds of cotton 2.
Eventually if the 4 chip designs is either not good, or can offer other kinds of optimizations.

So if you are curious i can send you a module.
This is the module:
https://www.antoniovillena.es/store/product/sdram-module/

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sorgelig avatar sorgelig commented on August 28, 2024

There is official design of SDRAM modules. Non-standard modules should be made as 100% compatible in order to work. If not, then don't ask it here. Go do developer of that module and ask him for compatibility. Don't bother developer to support non-standard HW! This core is already very complicated, so supporting additional HW variation makes unneeded complexity and less chance to succeed.

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

Hey @srg320 i wasn't aware i was bothering you. I thought it was fine to ask questions out of curiosity.
I m also sorry probably my english wasn't clear enough when i tried to clearly state that i wasn't expecting any support, and if you were curious i could send you a module, of course without expecting anything in return.

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

@sorgelig i think you either can't read very well or you didn't bother reading.
From the conversation it was clear that:

  • we know there are official SDRAM modules
  • It was already asked to the developer for compatibility
  • no one asked for support of any kind

Also if it was the mister-devel org i perfectly knows the code of conduct and the stance and i wouldn't have asked, since this is a different repo, from a different person, with not specified code of conduct, until not clearly stated, the don't ask it here is probably just in your head.

You are free to use github as you want but don't pretend that every repository or code sharing works as you intend.

if @srg320 didn't feel the urge to shut me off as soon as i asked a question, maybe is just because he is, contrary to you, a nice person open to converstaion and can decide by himself when is time to cut the conversation.

So thank you for your unsolicited opinion anyway.

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sorgelig avatar sorgelig commented on August 28, 2024

Yeah, i didn't notice it's not in MiSTer-devel. It pops up in my notification list.
Probably i have to remove myself from notifications of this repository.

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srg320 avatar srg320 commented on August 28, 2024

@asturur, you can't send me anything because I live under occupation. I recommend waiting for the official release. If it won't work with the official release, you will need to purchase an official SDRAM module 128Mb.

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

I have plenty already of official ram modules ( 4 of them ). As i tried to make clear, this was just curiosity.

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thehughhefner avatar thehughhefner commented on August 28, 2024

@asturur I suggest that you wait until the core is officially released before you create any tickets. My recommendation is that this ticket should be closed

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asturur avatar asturur commented on August 28, 2024

Oh guys! i suggest you learn to get context on issues.

You are the same person that said my request for nightly build integration was dangerous because the nightlies being unstable, stating the obvious and missing completely the point that time and this time.

This wasn't an issue about the core status, but about a requirement in the readme.
There are other things interesting here on top of playing saturn games of which i couldn't care less. I wanted to understand something, and this is the right place to ask, since the discussion tab isn't enabled for this repository.

I can close myself the issue so i can avoid more attention seekers to chime in, @srg320 already explained me all i wanted to know.

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