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taizilongxu avatar taizilongxu commented on September 26, 2024

参数传递 和 作用域 应当是两个问题吧?

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stamaimer avatar stamaimer commented on September 26, 2024

感觉第一个问题举的例子不恰当。 应该使用相同的操作来考察可变对象和不可变对象。现在的例子中,对于不可变对象(整数)在函数中创建了一个新的对象,然后把函数中的a绑定到这个新的整数对象上,对于可变对象(列表)在函数中的append操作只是就地更改了原来的列表对象,如果在这个函数中同样创建一个新的列表对象,然后把a绑定到新的列表对象上,函数外的a仍然还是原来的对象。

def fun_a(a):
    print id(a)
    a = type(a)()
    print id(a)
    print a 

a = 1

fun_a(a)
print a

a = [1]

fun_a(a)
print a

fun_a中的操作对所有类型都创建了一个新的对象,把内部的a绑定到新创建的对象上,并不影响外部的a指向的对象

def fun_b(a, b):
    print id(a)
    a = a + b
    print id(a)
   print a

a = 1
b = 2

fun_b(a, b)
print a

a = [1, 2]
b = [3, 4]

fun_b(a, b)
print a

和第一个例子一样,函数中的中缀操作符 + 创建一个新的对象,并不影响外部的a所指向的对象

def fun_c(a, b):
    print id(a)
    a += b
    print id(a)
    print a

a = 1
b = 2

fun_c(a, b)
print a

a = [1, 2]
b = [3, 4]

fun_c(a, b)
print a

这个例子中的 += 对于不可变对象创建一个新的对象,对于可变对象就地修改。

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franklingu avatar franklingu commented on September 26, 2024

个人认为关于参数传递的解释的话,不能套用c的指针或者cpp的reference,一定会造成误解的;而且要是非要强调mutability的话也是可能会找成误解。我的建议就是理解为名字,一个变量名字对应相应的object,如果名字对应的可以被修改,那么就修改;如果不可以,那么就不可以修改,只能重新create新的object,然后把名字reassign指到新的object

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