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lokarM avatar lokarM commented on August 21, 2024
Pregled storitve Pedal

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matijapretnar avatar matijapretnar commented on August 21, 2024

@lokarM - a lahko dodaš kakšen screenshot in napišeš par alinej, v čem so razlike s Tomotom in kaj bi bilo vredno prenesti v Tomota?

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lokarM avatar lokarM commented on August 21, 2024

Na koncu sporočila sem imel tole - ker pa se ne veže neposredno na Pedal, dodajam spredaj (ne vem, kam bi načeloma bilo bolj smisleno dati - se opravičujem Matiji, ker dodatnoi ustvarjam zmedo)

Predlagam pa, da bi najprej (preden se lotimo vmesnika za sestavljanje) naredili sledeče:

  • ko učitelj naredi/popravi nalogo, jo lahko predlaga za repozitorij (torej, ko je naloga OK (pripravljena previlna rešitev) - YES/NO/SUGGEST (ki je hkrati tudi Yes)
  • DOKLER NI REPOZITORIJEV, bi bilo fino (če je enostavno izvedljivo), da bi admin (ali poseben račuin) dobil pošto o tem, katere naloge so nastale na novo, oziroma bile spremenjene [da potem mi "poberemo" tovrstne naloge za bodoči repozitorji].

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Glavna novost Pedala je, da ima poseben jezik za pisanje testov, oziroma, da so ustvarili API s Feedback Functions, ki se nekako "obesijo" na asserte.

Tega se verjetno ne bomo lotili, oziroma le posredno s pomočjo upo. vmesnika za sestavljanje nalog. Povod za njihov pristop je bil:

        _When we first giving automated feedback, our scripts became a pile of if statements and messages._

Pedalova shema:

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Da bi lahko podrobneje ocenil, ali se da kaj od njihove kode neposredno (oz. z malo napora) uporabiti na Tomu, pa imam žal premalo praktičnega vedenja o kodiranju.

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Je pa v primerih, ki jih najdemo na https://pedal-edu.github.io/pedal/teachers/examples.html kar nekaj dobrih idej, kaj bi bilo fino, da v Tomu imamo, tudi, če se stvari ne lotimo "po njihovo".

Jih bom v nasednjem komentarju predstavil nekaj.

Nasploh menim, da bi vmesnik za sestavljanje nalog z vsemi podnalogami bil lahko samostojen MileStone, z vrsto "podzadev" (issues)

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lokarM avatar lokarM commented on August 21, 2024

primeri s Pedal:

image

Koristno se mi zdi:

  • sestavljalec naloge na enostaven način preveri klic funcije/metode (ensure_function_call('print'))
  • enostaven način preverjanja prepovedanega pristopa (pretvorba v niz) # Give message if they try to use strings instead of numbers prevent_ast("Str")

image

  • lep način povratne informacije pri uporabi napačnega prijema

Common mistake is that students put a $ in their code

if "$" in get_program():
explain("You should not use the dollar sign ($) anywhere in your code!",
title="Do Not Use Dollar Sign"
priority='syntax', label="used_dollar_sign")

  • zagotovitev, da se uporablja konstanta ... ensure_literal(9.5)

Ali pa take stvari:

(da ne uporabi določene knjižnice)

prevent_import('re', message="Using Regular Expressions would be a good idea."
" But no, you may not use them here.",
label="imported_re", title="No Regular Expressions")

(standardna napaka, da je v funkciji print namesto return )

prevent_printing_functions()
ensure_functions_return()

ITD

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