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sffc avatar sffc commented on September 15, 2024

My initial reaction is that I think this is a beneficial change. Returning things from closures is a pain, especially closures with restrictive lifetime parameters like the ones here. Does R need to be 'static?

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Manishearth avatar Manishearth commented on September 15, 2024

My immediate reaction is worry about contravariance and implied bounds sneaking in a 'b anyway: see rust-lang/rust#106431 for the last time this kind of thing happened. It gets pretty subtle and is hard to reason about.

I am overall in favor of this if we can be really sure that it works the way we expect it to.

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Manishearth avatar Manishearth commented on September 15, 2024

R: 'static would indeed be a way to make this work without any chance of problems. Would be nice to allow self-borrows, but R: 'a is almost certainly going to get the implied bounds messiness.

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sffc avatar sffc commented on September 15, 2024

I think R: 'static solves a lot of use cases; it allows the closure to return primitives and owned data, which it can't currently do since the closure is required to be 'static, so it can't save output variables to its context.

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=a9d03f0a3d04f8a6e7e212486bd66858

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Manishearth avatar Manishearth commented on September 15, 2024

I'm in favor of R: 'static + a breaking change

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jdygert-spok avatar jdygert-spok commented on September 15, 2024

Hmm, that variance issue is quite tricky. My gut says it wouldn't be a problem here since F is covariant over R, but I don't really know how to verify the soundness.

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