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Advanced Training Mission - Persian Gulf
A basic air-to-air training range, with drones flying known and predictable circular and/ or racetrack patterns in order to practice procedures and weapons in a permissive environment.
I request some assistance to get range 13 setup as a basic range like range 10 on TRM.
Targets are already in place.
Deep AR missions for the A-10 hunting armour, SCUD's which would involve more flight planning, dodging/evading certain areas etc. Something like the first mission of Green Sword or strike done in range 4B comning in from the corridor. This would give more to the flight planning for A-10C pilots
Would be a great addition if we could have SIDs and STARs for the most relevant airbases. Maybe begin with Al Dhafra.
Tanker with track AR303 didn't show up, which explains why I couldn't reach him on 42X (Y doesn't work) and 147.000.
Is it possible to add the following to the Range 14 Cas Scenario:
Add a option to run CAS scenario with SAM or without SAM.
(with SAM's CAS flights may need to use Low-level procedures)
If choosing to run with SAM, then one of the following SAMs will be activated: (currently in place, but set as late activated)
Threat_site_13
Threat_site_14
Threat_site_15
This is linked to Issue #29
For range 10 (or alternatively range 2 when it is ready), would it be possible to get IR SAMs (SA-13, SA-9, MANPADs) as well as a few SA-19 (SACLOS guided)? We would appreciate this for our new evasion tactics lesson in the 617th.
Tried different radios and different frequencies, nothing worked. Tanker didn't reply.
Is there a way to have a scripted A-A training area with different opponents and numbers?
Request support to add on/off for threatsites at Range 2 - dedicatd SEAD basic training.
TS8: SA-11
TS9: SA-2
TS10: SA-15
TS11: SA-6
TS12: SA-8
TS13: SA-3
Groupnames:
Add:
In support of scenariotraining in Range 10, I request the following IADS function.
The function should be availeble via the F10 menu.
In Range 10, (south part) there are 1 EWR, 3 threat sites and 1 mobile threat site.
The 4 threatsites is protecting a target area. The intention is to have the IADS protecting the high value target, and having options to conduct AI strikes against this target either with IADS off, IADS easy , IADS medium or IADS hard ( to have options to include SEAD element or simply practice SEAD)
IADS Easy: Randomly select 2 of the 4 threatsites and let them be on all the time.
IADS Medium: Randomly select 3 of the 4 threatsites to be on.
When a HARM is fired at any of the sites: shut down the radar on that threatsite. (
Random delay of 3-8 seconds after launch of the HARM trigger the activity (To simulate they actually beeing able to detect the missile before moving)
Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds.
IADS Hard: All 4 sites are in play
Only EWR is on initially. Once EWR detetcts a contact within the zone: R10_EWR it turns on Threatsite_1.
If a HARM is launched at Threatsite_1 or Threatsite_EWR then all other threat sites is activated aswell. Threatsite_2 , 3 and 4.
When a HARM is fired at any of the sites: shut down the radar on that threatsite.
Random delay of 3-8 seconds after launch of the HARM trigger the activity (To simulate they actually beeing able to detect the missile before moving)
Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds.
(For reference: Issue #1 )
from http://132virtualwing.org/index.php/page/event_debrief?id=1089
It would be great if there would be another tanker further away from Al Dhafra. In the Hawgs, we were pretty far away at T10.1.
Add ATIS to remaining airfields
Preset #2 was not 237 as per Preset Sheet, believe it was 229 or similar.
This was the same for two A/C parked Apron 6, another Viper on different apron had correct freq.
For range 10, would it be possible to add in a selection of SAM threats based on the group beeing spawned in?
This is intended for a mobile SAM zone for simple threats toward AR / SCAR flights.
Spawn in in the same zone as the other targets in Range 10 , in: AR_zone_R10 (already in the .miz)
Spawn in randomly somewhere in the zone.
The options for the SAMs are located in the NorthWest corner of the map, in Iran as late activated groups.
Range 10, Option 1: Should spawn in Range 10 option 1-1 or 1-2 or nothing
Range 10, Option 2: Should spawn in Range 10 option 2-1 or 2-2 or nothing
Range 10, Option 3: Should spawn in Range 10 option 3-1 or 3-2 or 3-3 or nothing
Range 10, Option 4: Should spawn in Range 10 option 4-1 or 4-2 or nothing
Range 10, Option 5: Should spawn in Range 10 option 5-1 or 5-2 or nothing
All groups should be on in an interval between 2 minutes until 20 minutes, and off between 2 minutes and 20 minutes.
Connected with Issue #16
At Al Dahfra there is now placed a BLUE SAM, a patriot batter for advanced training scenarios.
Is it possible to add a on/off function in the F10 menu. So it can be turned on and off
(so it can be turned off after exercise, so red ac can recover at Al Dahfra to maximise traffic.)
The Group is already in the .miz with the following name:AL_DAHFRA_PATRIOT
Segmented A-A area via dispatcher with cold war borders, placed in an area like Shiraz or Kerman, with a box of reasonable size away from a2g ranges.
Countering usual objections:
a) The cold war borders prevent AI traveling to areas you don't want them in. We've seen OPUF, we don't really see them coming south so we know it's contained
b) There's a lot of land mass, so deep strikes are still available almost to the limit of Hornet/Viper fuel ranges in the "other" corner. 150nm travel is available
c) Missile trainer is still available
d) It's very easy to script stopping it and deleting all aircraft mid mission. Can be via F10 menu where other ranges are, or even via codewords placed in markers
e) Not suggesting it is always present - AI will not be there by default
f) It doesn't imply replacing Humans where possible
g) Should be balanced with appropriate Redfor slots in Shiraz/Kerman
Design:
Why:
Raising the correct amount of people for anything large scale is very difficult. You can't get multiple flights of F-14 players (8 players) easily to practice large scale air to air and training often resolves down to 1v1, and maximum (and rare) 2v2.
It takes a lot of effort to raise A-A events with anything but Tomcat vs Hornet, so we train and get bogged down in the same aircraft/weapon which affects testing minimum ranges, not learning ranges (who here has actually fought an R40 engagement or knows what it is?)
Having both sides with humans involves originating from the same airbase or long travel times to the MOA, whereby you are lucky to get 2-3 sets in due to fuel, which means 90 minutes of ferry and startup for 10 minutes of combat - which is an inferior learning pace.
There's nothing complex in this, the question of why not usually cites:
Create suitable ranges to conduct CAS operations.
Is it possible to restrict the missile script to certain zones?
For example having it enabled over Ranges, but not over IRAN?
Looking at the overall scenario, and using a combination of OPUF and this new training mission ( with static templates it is easy to add stuff and transform this mission into a combat event on short notice, and with minimum effort.
But it would require the missile script to be able to work in only some zones.
@132nd-Entropy Do you know this?
We tuned TACAN to the Viking at the Stennis on 48Y, but couldn't find a published frequency to match that TACAN station.
If everyone in the squadron wrote down times where someone in their flight or another you were working with was
We would have many legitimate reasons where a hot start or air start would have saved the other people that didn't have an issue, 10+ minutes of their training time.
This issue does not suggest using this becomes main stream, just that it provides an option that can correct a problem.
They can come with guidance and process. I.e. not to be used until a problem occurs and with some kind of justification, put in a specific place/lane outside of any Controlled area and even be mentioned/catered for in AAR's.
It's just a fact of life that things happen, people often have to rush back late from work and the smaller things like working out if Microsoft updates are due, software updates to any of the software we use, restarts etc, fall down on the list of things to do when catching up with the hectic MDC building, reading plans, making/eating dinner.
Is is possible to adda third blue AWACS to the script.
This is inteded for advanced scenario trainings when the other AWACS is not suitable.
This is intended to be launced/activated on request (F10)
C/S: Wizard
Freq: 308.0 AM
Unit is already in .miz as late activated with name:AWACS3
I request some assistance to get range 4 setup as a basic range like range 10 on TRM.
Targets are already in place.
(Southern part of range 4)
Ok, I have now added AWACS and Tankers to the .miz.
What is currently in the .miz is what I would like their orbits to be.
Also, as @daviddcs mentioned in Issue #7 , the idea is not to have all of these up all the time, but beeing able to request what you need for a certain event.
On a normal event, the following tracks should be active:
AWACS: MAGIC
Tanker:
AR201 - For Vipers
AR301 - For Hornets and Tomcats
(So only blue assets, as aggressors assets is then requested if needed , to reduce strain on the server)
I am not sure how to do this in a good way, but then have a possibility for activating a new tanker or AWACS, and also to deactivate on of the tracks in action.
All AWACS and Tankers should start at:
BLUE: Dubai International
RED: Sharjah Intl
Tankers should follows corridors or stay outside range airspace during transit
Detailed information
TANKERS BLUE
AR101: KC-135, Tacan 38X. Freq: 150.0, FL120
AR201: KC-135, Tacan 39X. Freq: 151.0, FL200
AR301: KC-135 MPRS, Tacan 40Y. Freq: 152.0, FL240
AR302: KC-135 MPRS, Tacan 41Y. Freq: 153.0, FL240
AR303: KC-135 MPRS, Tacan 42Y. Freq: 154.0, FL240
AR304: KC-135 MPRS, Tacan 46Y. Freq: 158.0, FL240
TANKERS RED
AR401 KC-135 MPRS, TACAN 43Y. Freq: 155.0, FL230
AR402 KC-135, TACAN 44X. Freq: 156.0, FL200
AR403 KC-135, TACAN 45X. Freq: 157.0, FL200
AR404 KC-135 MPRS, TACAN 47Y. Freq: 159.0, FL230
AWACS
AWACS BLUE
MAGIC: Freq:305.0, FL400
DARKSTAR: Freq: 306.9, FL390
AWACS RED
FOCUS: Freq: 307.0, FL400
Extra: IF POSSIBLE:
Have a way of moving AR101 into AR201. If that works, then one of them can be moved, and players can simply fix it themself.
Reference Issue #7
To facilitate proper training for 494th and 108th there need to be a red carrier, and a blue carrier to ensure that both red and blue can use carriers (unlike todays TRM).
At Range 14 I have setup many units to create a dynamic CAS scenario that can be replayed by both FAC(A)'s and JTACs.
In the center is a friendly FOB.
Around it are 5 zones. 3 enemy (T14_1_North, T14_1_East and T14_1_South) and 2 friendly (T14_1_FR_North and T14_1_FR_South).
The zones are just for visual representation.
Within the zones I have several groups set to late-activation. Each group have various orders.
At the start of the scenario all groups are deactivated.
I request help for the following:
Add a F10 menu to activate CAS scenario Range 10.
Once the JTAC or FAC(A) click that button, the scenario starts.
The first action is to randomly select if either enemy from North or South is used. If North is used, then friendlies will enter from South, and vice verca. Enemy from East will always be used.
At a random interval between 1 and 3 minutes the first group of enemies will be activated.
(It will select randomly between EAST and NORTH/SOUTH).
After that, it will randomly activate remaining groups in a random interval between 2 and 6 minutes. (one group at a time)
Friendly group activation
At a random interval between 4 and 25 minutes will the friendly group be activated (Either NORTH or SOUTH depending on where enemies are spawning from).
Enemy NORTH:
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_1
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_2
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_3
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_4
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_5
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_6
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_7
T14_1_NORTH_OPT_8
Enemy EAST:
T14_1_EAST_OPT_1
T14_1_EAST_OPT_2
T14_1_EAST_OPT_3
T14_1_EAST_OPT_4
T14_1_EAST_OPT_5
Enemy SOUTH
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_1
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_2
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_3
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_4
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_5
T14_1_SOUTH_OPT_6
Friendly NORTH
T14_1_FR_NORTH
Friendly SOUTH
T14_1_FR_SOUTH
Request support to add Threatsite_7 to an F10 option to be turned on or off.
Groupname: Threatsite_7
Info: SA-11 battery.
Add:
When a HARM is fired at the threatsite shut down the radar.
Random delay of 3-8 seconds after launch of the HARM trigger the activity (To simulate they actually beeing able to detect the missile before moving)
Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds beforing beeing activated again.
F/A-18C presets Training mission (TRM) V1.1
3 245.250 LINE 8 Intraflight 3
In mission as I checked there is 245.50 preset set.
@132nd-Entropy Would it be possible to add a menu option to turn on the SAMs now in place at range 12?
Range 12 is inteded as a scenario range (have option for scenario). For that having the ability to turn on one or more of the 4 static SAM systems would be beneficial. If possible having an option for a easy, medium and hard for each SAM.
Requested functions:
Difficutly level:
Easy: SAM is always on (after beeing activated), and do not react to beeing shot at.
Medium: SAM is always on (after beeing activated) until fired upon by HARM. When a HARM is fired at the site, the radar shut down on the threat site. Random delay of 3-9 seconds after launch of HARM before the site shuts down. Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds before active again.
Hard: After activation, SAM is on in random intervals between 60-200 seconds. Then it is off in random intervals between 60-200 seconds. . When a HARM is fired at the site, the radar shut down on the threat site. Random delay of 3-9 seconds after launch of HARM before the radars shuts down. Move the group a random interval between 30-100m in any direction. Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds before active again.
When a HARM is fired at any of the sites: shut down the radar on that threatsite. (
Random delay of 3-8 seconds after launch of the HARM trigger the activity (To simulate they actually beeing able to detect the missile before moving)
Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds.
SAMs:
Names in the ME
Threatsite_12_1
Threatsite_12_2
Threatsite_12_3
Threatsite_12_4
Threatsite_12_5
Explanation:
Threatsite_12_1 : SA-3
Threatsite_12_2 : SA-11
Threatsite_12_3 : SA-2
Threatsite_12_4 : SA-6
Threatsite_12_5 : SA-8
ARCO 203, TCN BRG NOT working.
Unsure if its a viper thing or not, but the BRG heading give's a wonky false positive. Is there another 49X in play?
(distance works ok)
@Neck - Please check the Tomcat's on Apron 1 main. There are some spawn points directly in the path of others. I think they should be one line if possible. Example; just ready to taxi, bam a tomcat 40ft wide spawns in front of you.
Suggestions for Range 6:
Create a "GREEN ZONE" in the urban area
Add a FARP
Create a FOB (for convoys moving between green zone and FOB)
Add FARP at the FOB?
Dynamic targets / randomization
Convoy escort (With JTAC and without JTAC)
Different Convoys /Different routes
Request support to add Threatsite_6 to an F10 option to be turned on or off.
Groupname: Threatsite_6
Info: SA-11 battery.
Add:
When a HARM is fired at the threatsite shut down the radar.
Random delay of 3-8 seconds after launch of the HARM trigger the activity (To simulate they actually beeing able to detect the missile before moving)
Let the radar be off in a random interval between 60-180 seconds beforing beeing activated again.
Request to add the missile script to the .miz so that we can start firing A-A missiles.
Request help for scripting
Request this function to be activated using the F10 radio menu.
Would it be possible to place randomly one of 5 different configurations in the rangezone, defined by a A-10, late activated, labelled AR_zone_R10 (already in the .miz)
The 5 different configurations are locate as late activated units in Iran.
Each configuration consist of 4-6 groups, but are different type of formation (Either a Motorized BN,, Mechanized BN, Armor BN, Regimental Element, or HVT tgts.
Then the task is for the AR flight is to locate and identify what can of unit that is in the zone, and beeing able to kill the most important unit in that formation. Gives incentives to be able to recognize and target most important targets, thus the AR or SCAR role.
IF possible, once activated, have the groups move every 15 minutes, driving for 500-1500m within the same AR zone.
Check Bullseye information in Combatflite, make sure correct information is loaded, and availeble in the brief
30 x 30 NM (Killbox-sized) Range with multiple types of SAM systems inside, activated from F10 Menus.
Idea is to have a place to train basic offensive tactics against known threats. Also, if this range could be inside a larger range, then we could use it for strikes
132nd.Dex
TA 13 000
TL 150
@132nd-Entropy
I request some assistance to get range 5 setup as a basic range like range 10 on TRM.
Targets are already in place.
With the advent of the AGM-84 Harpoon, and the availability of open sea, Anti Shipping missions have barely been touched in 132nd. I'd like to see this, personally, i'm sure the 494th would.
Would it be possible to add carrier script to the following carriers:
BLUE
CVN-74
TACAN 74X
RED
CVN-68
TACAN 68X
Carriers are in the .miz already in their area. So can setup a racetrack in that position
(But do not add any rescue helicopter or statics on deck, should be as clean as possible)
If possible, have a Carrier tanker as a F10 option to launch if needed (but not airborne by default)
The link for the colorcoded freqs in the ATRM brief is broken.
Presuming here that Advanced training focuses on LFE's.
I think very little effort should be put into declaration of different ranges. Work it more like a mission, have a large range and modify/de-conflict with use of ACP/ROZ/ROE/HARDDECKS. Work assets closer together instead of having a +300NM spread.
Less work on different range orders, more work on targets and types of tasking.
Is it possible to add two more tanker tracks to the tanker script functionality.
These units are default off, and can be activated using the F10 menu.
These 2 tracks specificly are intended for advanced training scenarios (EX RED STORM)
Both units are already in the .miz:
AR203:
Name in .miz:ARCO AR 203
Freq:140.0
TACAN: 49X
AR305:
Name in .miz:SHELL AR 305
Freq:139.0
TACAN: 80Y
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