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Vitalist looks a fairly decent GTD site with a nice REST API

Original comment by [email protected] on 11 Apr 2009 at 9:19

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I'm not sure if RTM is in the GTD arena, but they also have a nice API with 
REST.

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I'll cast a second vote for RTM sync - would definitely pay for this feature.

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3rd vote for RTM

Original comment by [email protected] on 27 Apr 2009 at 6:23

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I would also pay for RTM sync.

RTM is great, but sadly they don't follow GTD. 

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Another vote on RTM here.

Original comment by [email protected] on 4 May 2009 at 12:32

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RTM please.

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Google tasks, are now useable integrated into Google Calendar:
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/tasks-now-in-calendar-too.html

For heavy google calendar user, this could be also an alternate view to shuffle.
So sync to Google tasks, could be also fine.

Original comment by [email protected] on 13 May 2009 at 9:06

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I would LOVE sync to Google Tasks. I'm apparently the only person in the 
universe who's not an RTM fan.

Original comment by eph.zero on 13 May 2009 at 9:11

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Google tasks would fit well in a much Google-powered mobile OS.They also allow
projects and manual sorting, which RTM doesn't (to my experience). I would vote 
for
1) Google tasks or 2) Create one from scratch. I would happily pay a couple of 
bucks
a year for the service, but would the pro client program be open-sourced? Too 
many a
loved apps have gone abandoned in the past with no source for someone else to 
pick up
(see palm task manager ;( ). How about using the same free client but charging 
for
the sync service? I would happily go with that too.
Nick

Original comment by [email protected] on 17 May 2009 at 1:56

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I would prefer a site built from scratch that would emulate the Shuffle app's 
functionality.  I'd be against a fee, but if there was a donate link, I'm sure 
I 
wouldn't be the only one to thank you for your work.  

As mentioned before, RTM is nice, but not GTD.

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I vote for import before sync.  I've got all my tasks in Toodledo, which has 
contexts, but not projects.  
Would love to just get 'em in here the first time.

Original comment by [email protected] on 30 May 2009 at 1:26

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Here's one more for RTM sync!

Original comment by [email protected] on 1 Jun 2009 at 11:55

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Either Google Tasks or RTM. I'd like to try it with Google Tasks for a change, 
especially given that it's integration with GMail and Google Calendar is very 
simple 
and lightweight.

Original comment by [email protected] on 16 Jun 2009 at 11:39

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I vote for Toodledo for sync. Seems like it is second preference to RTM to 
many. But os my first choice. 
They have a published API as well. Thanks for your work!

Original comment by [email protected] on 17 Jun 2009 at 4:56

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If my assumption is correct below, I'd then vote for RTM and get '2 for 1' in 
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process.

If you check out this RTM page (http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/) you 
can 
see that they've been working to integrate RTM in a number of other services 
(Netvibes, twitter, etc.). Of particular interest to this discussion are RTM's 
links 
to Google Gmail, Gears, Calendar, & iGoogle gadget. Might it be possible to 
piggyback these efforts (and lessen your own) by integrating/syncing with RTM 
with 
the intent of not just satisfying the RTM folks here, but also linking with the 
Google services via RTM. 

That way the initial need (of being able to sync to a website) would be met in 
a 
fairly comprehensive way, while still keeping options open down the road for 
creating a more direct, focuses link to Google. That way next effort might be 
focused on the next priority feature - which, for me personally, would be easy 
import/export. 

Thanks for your efforts
Cheers
Bill

Original comment by [email protected] on 18 Jun 2009 at 3:11

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Count one more vote for Toodledo. It seems that the only program that syncs to 
both
(toodo) is not active since cupcake came out. The other Android task manager 
that
syncs (astrid) only syncs to RTM.

Looking forward to this feature.

Thanks

Original comment by [email protected] on 24 Jun 2009 at 1:04

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1 vote for google tasks, but RTM is also good choice.

Original comment by [email protected] on 25 Jun 2009 at 1:05

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Todoist or Google Tasks.

Original comment by [email protected] on 7 Jul 2009 at 5:18

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I tried RTM with some other task app and don't use it, anymore. Just another 
Website
to use, with not special benefit (for me).
On the other hand, (almost) every Android user will have a google account, 
synced
calendar and use google on a daily basis. So, for me, it's quite obvious which 
would
have the greatest benefit. 

Original comment by [email protected] on 7 Jul 2009 at 5:49

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One more vote for Google Tasks.

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A generic CalDAV sync would be useful for future apps, I think - Google Tasks 
will
probably use it, as soon as they get around to supporting the VTODO part of the 
standard!

Original comment by [email protected] on 20 Jul 2009 at 12:57

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Original comment by [email protected] on 4 Aug 2009 at 10:22

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One more RTM vote 

Original comment by [email protected] on 6 Aug 2009 at 5:17

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Tracks :(

Original comment by [email protected] on 11 Aug 2009 at 1:55

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Id vote for Tracks, but Google Tasks would be great too.
Tasks would give a more integrated feel to it, but I do not know if that is a 
goal.

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 1 Sep 2009 at 12:00

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Id vote for Tracks, but Google Tasks would be great too.
Tasks would give a more integrated feel to it, but I do not know if that is a 
goal.

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 1 Sep 2009 at 12:00

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Shuffle is the best GTD-based app I've used. And I've tried them all. I'd also 
pay
for this app.

I vote for import as well. I have my tasks in RTM and would like to move them to
Shuffle but I don't want to retype them. 300+ entries. blech.

Original comment by [email protected] on 2 Sep 2009 at 3:44

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Sync with Google Tasks! 

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One more vote for Google Tasks!

Original comment by iyiguncevik on 21 Sep 2009 at 7:33

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Google tasks. And don't forget to support Google Apps accounts. :)

Original comment by [email protected] on 21 Sep 2009 at 9:10

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A few words to RTM:
- RTM has now its own app in the market, which is quite good, so I guess it 
will be
very hard to attract a lot of RTM users.

- If you want to sell shuffle in the market, you also have to pay for the RTM 
API

Therefore I vote for Google Tasks (for Google Apps)

Original comment by [email protected] on 21 Sep 2009 at 10:13

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Original comment by [email protected] on 23 Sep 2009 at 6:02

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I'd vote for ToodleDo - It matches Shuffle well!

Original comment by [email protected] on 1 Oct 2009 at 10:22

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i vote for toodelo and google task. the problem with with RTM is that is 
doesn't allow the same functionality of 
shuffle such as subtask. Also a custom site that syncs with .ical would also be 
good. Thanks!

Original comment by [email protected] on 3 Oct 2009 at 4:01

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Google Tasks would be my preference. At the moment I actually use my own set of
plain-text files, but I would be happy to start using Google Tasks, a dedicated
Shuffle application, or some other package, if it synchronised nicely with 
Shuffle on
my phone.

Just as important is the ability to export task lists in a human-readable 
format, and
it would be nice if Shuffle could do this directly, but I'm not sure it's worth 
a
separate ticket at the moment.

Original comment by [email protected] on 8 Oct 2009 at 2:59

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Amazing app!  Would love to use it but need desktop sync.

Another vote for all things google!
(Gmail, tasks, calendar integration)

Also a web based version would be mint too.. even if it was ad supported

Original comment by [email protected] on 10 Oct 2009 at 7:46

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Vote for google

Original comment by [email protected] on 10 Oct 2009 at 7:46

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Google tasks doesn't have a public API yet, so won't consider that as an option 
until it does. I'm sure Google is 
working on it.

Original comment by [email protected] on 11 Oct 2009 at 5:21

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I really like this app but I haven't begin using it yet because I don't want to
retype everything. Adding tasks can be a little difficult on MT3G because of 
the tiny
keyboard but it would cool to allow import or sync to google task ...How is 
GTask
doing it...

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What if we could edit our bak up somewhere via pc

Original comment by [email protected] on 12 Oct 2009 at 4:37

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I love this app and would definitely vote for syncing with Google Tasks. That 
would be 
better than going to another site since I use Google calendar already. I bought 
the 
MyTouch because it is integrated into Google because I am a Google purist. 
Don't mess 
it up by syncing with something else.

Original comment by [email protected] on 13 Oct 2009 at 3:01

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This app captures the simplicity of GTD so well. It would be great to have that 
same
experience on my desktop. I agree with andy - this app should have its own site 
to
sync with. I'd gladly pay a couple dollars for it too.

Original comment by [email protected] on 14 Oct 2009 at 2:08

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Original comment by [email protected] on 15 Oct 2009 at 9:02

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Vote for Google Tasks! Would also pay for that feature (within limits).

I would not pay to be able to sync to another site, because I use Google Tasks 
also
on my desktops at home and office (its unbeatably usable, just like shuffle is 
:-). 

Who can we bug about that public API? Its really odd that google hasn't relased
annything yet!

Original comment by [email protected] on 29 Oct 2009 at 4:31

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Original comment by [email protected] on 2 Nov 2009 at 5:21

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I would love to sync with Google Tasks. Even a custom built site would work 
nicely, 
and I would happily dish out the cash if it was well done.

Original comment by [email protected] on 4 Nov 2009 at 9:19

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I'd like to vote AGAINST google tasks; while gtasks are useful, they don't seem 
to
implement essential GTD features, such as contexts or projects. One of these 
could be
implemented using the lists feature of gtasks, but to implement both would 
probably
require some hacks, unless I've missed something.

I don't know what I would vote for though because I currently use a MonkeyGTD
tiddly-wiki, but syncronisation to a web based GTD system would get me to 
switch to
Shuffle.

Original comment by [email protected] on 6 Nov 2009 at 12:47

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@tim:
Not everyone needs your "essential GTD features" but uses google mail, 
calendar, etc.
I really miss google tasks and hope this will be done in shuffle. I'd be 
willing to pay 
for this, too. I'm quite fine with the features google tasks provide and don't 
need 
more.

Original comment by [email protected] on 6 Nov 2009 at 2:47

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Google Tasks or Tracks

Original comment by [email protected] on 3 Dec 2009 at 2:42

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I would vote for a stand alone Shuffle site. 
i would also be willing to pay for this feature. please push this issue to the 
top of
the development list. 
Also, what price point would you (all users please provide an amount) be 
willing to
pay for:
1. Flat Rate, one time fee.
2. Monthly subscription.

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I vote for using Toodledo - it seems to be the best GTD web app out there and
supports subtasks (with paid subscription).

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I would appreciate either a stand-alone version, or Toodledo. I've been using 
Shuffle
for the past six months - and love it. I have, however, really been missing the
ability to use a desktop version, when I'm sitting at my desk!

And, yes, I'd be willing to pay a reasonable fee for this feature.

Original comment by [email protected] on 14 Dec 2009 at 4:32

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I'm about to switch from iPhone to Android and always used Things for 
Mac/iPhone as 
GTD tool. It features easy sync and saves its data as XML. Would it be much of 
a 
hassle to support XML imports?

Shuffle seems to be the only Android App that can actually compete with Things' 
functionality AND look & feel, so I'd be happy to use Shuffle from now on - if 
there 
would be an easy way to sync it with XML files...

Any chance?

Original comment by [email protected] on 17 Dec 2009 at 11:53

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I too am coming from Things for Mac/iPhone and would have to agree with 
dominik.osterholt's comments!  Waiting patiently for a web-based/AdobeAir 
desktop-
sync option.  Thanks for a great program.

Original comment by [email protected] on 17 Dec 2009 at 3:31

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Voting for Google Tasks.  I just bought an Android phone and I love having my 
contacts, calendar and email online at google.  It only seems logical to use 
Tasks 
in the same way, then.  We just need to figure out how to use it as a simple 
task on 
Google's end, but a GTD-enriched task on the client end - without it being a 
problem 
if/when the user needs to migrate to a new phone.  Wouldn't be suprised if 
tasks 
are/will be included with the gmail desktop app as well.  So on your worst day, 
even 
without Shuffle (or your phone) - at least you still know what needs to get 
done.

Original comment by [email protected] on 22 Dec 2009 at 1:31

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Personally, I'm using Things/Mac too, and sync it to Dropbox. So while this is 
obviously not a primary syncing 
option for Shuffle as it's mac only, I'd love to be able to sync them - so I 
was thinking about how nice it would be 
if Shuffle supported some plugin api so it would be a bit easier for people to 
contribute new syncing options.

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Another vote for Tracks, being a Free Software thing I can run on my own 
server.  A 
good match with Shuffle, from a licence standpoint.

Having a quick look into how quickly code for this could be done...

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As I'm unsure I have Andy's correct email address. I'm adding a patch file that 
adds
remote synchronization with Tracks.

In this patch there are no checking of the synchronization settings specified.

I'll work some more on it but I'd prefer Andy's feedback.

Regards
Morten

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 3 Jan 2010 at 10:28

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Morten,

Is this patch applied to the server side or the android side, for a novice is 
this 
patch easy to install and is there any documentation on getting it done?

- thanks in advance!

Andy (not the developer...) 

Original comment by [email protected] on 3 Jan 2010 at 11:37

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Hi Andy (not the developer...) :) 

It's strictly for shuffle's source-code. Tracks already has a nice REST api to
synchronize with.

Andy, the developer, got a newer version of the patch earlier to day. But it 
needs to
be added to the client, but should be pretty complete apart for some minor 
details.

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 4 Jan 2010 at 12:40

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Hi Morten,

Could you provide an apk version of Shuffle with your patch?
I know we'd all prefer Andy to release it, but i would like to test it a bit.

Thanks in advance!

Bert

Original comment by [email protected] on 4 Jan 2010 at 9:56

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Alright, but make sure you make backups of your data before you try it.

Note that you use this file under your own responsibility. Andy said earlier 
that he
would take a look at the patch, so I recommend waiting for a more official 
market
release.

To use it:
Configure the synchronization settings under the settings menu.
You need to specify the url for your tracks installation;
make sure that the url (you specify it under settings) in the form of
http://my.gtdify.com. That is no trailing slash.

And your username and password in that installation.

You then have a menu option avaliable in the normal screeens called 
"synchronize".

I also recommend not using the "delete compeleted" options, instead relying on 
the
synchronization to "clean up" the completed tasks. Otherwise the tasks arn't 
marked
as completed in Tracks.

Let me know if you find any issues and how it feels.

Also;
I've had issues with setting the icon on contexts, this shouldn't be because of 
the
synchronization code but just a heads up.

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 4 Jan 2010 at 11:41

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While it is still up to Andy, I wrote a description of how the synchronization I
wrote works, and how it is configured.

it is available on my blog:
http://www.morkeleb.com/2010/01/04/synchronizing-tracks-and-shuffle/

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 4 Jan 2010 at 12:05

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Morten,

Thanks for the apk version, I'm using it now! It works very good actually, the 
only
"issue" I have is that when I specify my tracks installation as
https://mytracks.domain.tld it doesn't work. Only http seems to work. Other than
that, very nice! Waiting for Andy to implement it :)

Original comment by [email protected] on 4 Jan 2010 at 1:15

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Hi Bert

I have a fix for the http issue, but I cannot check it as my track installation
doesn't support HTTPS. Mind checking it for me or do you have an installation 
you can
recommend?

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 4 Jan 2010 at 7:34

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Thanks Morten - nice work. :-)

I've checked in his initial patch to trunk and am going to work with Morten to 
get it 
release ready. 

FYI - the changes to support Tracks are fairly isolated and don't prevent 
Shuffle 
integrating with other services in future. 

Original comment by [email protected] on 4 Jan 2010 at 10:56

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Morten,

I have an https installation but it is a private installation :). If you 
provide me
with the apk I would like to check it for you.

Regards,

Bert

btw @andy and Morten Thanks guys! Been waiting for an application like this, 
with
sync. This Rocks!

Original comment by [email protected] on 5 Jan 2010 at 9:15

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here's the latest apk file for testing purposes only. used under your own
responsiblity, but testing appreciated. Especially with the https 
functionallity.
Settings file now checks your settings before saving them, this would be good 
to verfiy.

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 5 Jan 2010 at 9:47

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Morten,

Thanks for your hard work! The https function however, is _NOT_ working, but 
that
might have to do with the fact that I use a self signed certificate.

When I logcat when trying to save my settings I get no errors, just:

/NotificationService(  143): enqueueToast pkg=org.dodgybits.android.shuffle
callback=android.app.ITransientNotification$Stub$Proxy@43ed13c0 duration=0

And on my tracks installation logs I see nothing, that makes me thinks that it
doesn't connect because of no valid (signed) certificate. I don't now if it is
possible to ask the user to trust one when it is self signed?

Greetings,

Bert

Original comment by [email protected] on 5 Jan 2010 at 10:57

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I notice that if I complete a task in Shuffle (that was originally synchronized 
from Tracks), and then synchronize again, the Tracks 
task is not marked as closed as per morten's blog post (nor is it deleted from 
Shuffle on a subsequent sync).

Seemingly relevant PUTs are changing the state field to "completed" with 200 OK 
(although there is an accompanying 401 for each request, 
almost as if the sync code is trying each request unauthenticated first).

Nothing appears to have changed in the Tracks UI.

If I sync again, apparently the exact same thing happens (I assume that because 
Tracks is evidently never being updated, the sync code 
never sees the item disappear and therefore never removes it from Shuffle's db).

This is Tracks 1.7_branch with the Shuffle APK from comment #81.

Cheers.

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data
first) and also is it possible to provide me with a test user on the tracks 
installation?

Regards
Morten

Original comment by morten.dalgaard.nielsen on 7 Jan 2010 at 8:22

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The new APK seems to have worked.

Original comment by [email protected] on 8 Jan 2010 at 1:13

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Thanks for the help with the testing. Were doing some final bug-fixes and 
hopefully
Andy has a release ready soon enough.

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Original comment by [email protected] on 9 Jan 2010 at 8:12

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Hi Morten,
Thank you for the work you've done. Option to sync Tracks run without problems. 
The
only problem I encountered is with a scheduling option. Editing task Schuffle
automatically inserts the date (start, due) and can not be deleted. Worse still,
after synchronization puts them back into Tracks. The problem occurs only for 
tasks
previously imported from Tracks.

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Gregor this is highly interesting, could you provide a more detailed step by 
step
reproduction for me. That would be highly usefull. In the current version I 
cannot
see this behaviour but it would be great to double test with a scenario that you
reproduce it with.

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Sounds like he is referring to an existing bug: issue #54 Unable to remove 
scheduling 
details from an action
This will be fixed, probably at the same time I finish off the reminder work.

Original comment by [email protected] on 10 Jan 2010 at 11:12

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Hi Morten
Here are the steps:
On the Web
1. I'm creating a new task in Tracks without dates
2. I choose the context and project
3. I write task
4. Logout
Phone
5. Starting Shuffle
6. Synchronizes
7. I have a new task (without dates)
8. Editing task, and at this point Shudelling shows the date (today)
Another problems that I notice: 
- Tasks imported from Tracks are in a different order than originally (web)
- Tasks imported from Tracks can not move up or down (list of tasks in project 
view)
Regards
Gregor

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Tracks support now added (thanks Morten). Tracks related bugs and support for 
other 
platforms will be raised as separate issues.

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My vote for:
- Desktops apps like Kontact or Basket.
- Tracks, because I don't like to depend on external servers. Tracks is free 
software
and I can install it in my own server.

Keep Shuffle as free software it's also very important to me.

Thanks, and keep up this good work!

   ßingen.

Original comment by [email protected] on 24 Feb 2010 at 9:29

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I would prefer also a shuffle-like interface on the website. Sync could occur 
lovely as it is (in my experience) with tracks.

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