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teocomi avatar teocomi commented on July 20, 2024

Agree on all your points!

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lbj avatar lbj commented on July 20, 2024

I think we should clarify on issues if we are talking about the BCF 2.0 format as such or about the BCF 2.0 API. While the comments here seems to be about the BCF 2.0 file format there are also references to the BCF "hub" that might imply that this remarks are about BCF in the shape of an API. We cannot remove bits from the file format that preserves history because the API can preserve the history in another way. The BCF file format and the BCF API are two different things.

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ErikPijnenburg avatar ErikPijnenburg commented on July 20, 2024

Everything I wrote above was about recommended use of BCF 1.0 and 2.0 formats.

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pasi-paasiala avatar pasi-paasiala commented on July 20, 2024

I would suggest that for the third point we could agree that if the viewpoint only lists hidden components, then all the rest would be visible except the hidden components (the Visible flag is false). For example, it is often good not to show spaces. This way the smaller set of components (visible or invisible) could be exported to BCF.

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ErikPijnenburg avatar ErikPijnenburg commented on July 20, 2024

I agree, but then we need to recommend to use that with care: when listing only hidden components you cannot know anymore if the Zoom-To shows all involved items if the model has been changed. When listing visible components the software can check if they are still available.

The definition will then become:

  • By default NOT listed components are hidden
    UNLESS: there are NO components listed as visible,
    THEN all components except the ones listed as hidden are visible
  • By default NOT listed components are NOT selected

And the advised/best working practice to limit size of viewpoints:

  • either list a few involved components as “selected=true" but show whole model (no components listed as visible) and perhaps use clipping planes
  • or list a few involved components as “visible=true"
  • or list no components as visible meaning whole model is visible except components listed as hidden

The software creating viewpoints should work in a way that viewpoints remain small, to limit BCF file size and improve performance when working with a hub.

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pasi-paasiala avatar pasi-paasiala commented on July 20, 2024

Agreed in telecon 2014-07-17 that I will update the documentation.

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pasi-paasiala avatar pasi-paasiala commented on July 20, 2024

Here's the first version of the agreements: https://github.com/pasi-paasiala/BCF/tree/master/Documentation. It is still in the fork and not merged.

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pasi-paasiala avatar pasi-paasiala commented on July 20, 2024

These are done here:cf242b0#diff-fc5059085a6bb53d00544fb7da80db2f

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