App includes note that health authority will ask for list of contacts

[Ein-Tim]

App includes note that health authority will ask for list of contacts

[MikeMcC399]

@Ein-Tim

Good point!

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Kontaktperson/Management.html shows:

Kontaktpersonen-Nachverfolgung (KP-N) bei SARS-CoV-2-Infektionen, Stand 14.1.2022, außer Kraft seit 2.5.2022
Bitte beachten: Die Empfehlungen des RKI zur Kontaktpersonen-Nachverfolgung bei SARS-CoV-2-Infektionen sind ab dem 2.5.2022 nicht mehr gültig. Die derzeit geltenden Empfehlungen des Bundes zu Isolations- und Quarantäneregelungen sind abrufbar unter www.rki.de/covid-19-absonderung.

[GisoSchroederSAP]

We will verify the conclusion above with certain health authorities to get clearance for removal the respective text blocks in the CWA.
Thanks for pointing out.

[dsarkar]

@Ein-Tim FYI corona-warn-app/cwa-app-android#5655

[dsarkar]

@Ein-Tim FYI corona-warn-app/cwa-app-ios#4860

[Ein-Tim]

Will someone asses this issue? @sapcoder123 / @GisoSchroederSAP

[dsarkar]

Internal Tracking ID: EXPOSUREAPP-14134

[Ein-Tim]

@GisoSchroederSAP

Did you already hear back from the health authorities?

[GisoSchroederSAP]

Yes, I did, sorry for delay of this update:
The statement above "You will be asked by your public health authority to create a list of people you have had contact with." is still valid, but could be updated to "You might be asked by your public health authority to create a list of people you have had contact with."
The answer is very clear: There is still contact tracing happening, up to the limit of the authoritie's capacity. You cannot enforce or rely on this interrogation for each and every location, but: Better be prepared.

So, I suggest, we rather update the section than removing it completely. What do you think?

[Ein-Tim]

@GisoSchroederSAP

So, I suggest, we rather update the section than removing it completely. What do you think?

Sounds good. Although I'm a bit surprised by this answer, as @MikeMcC399 pointed out above that the even RKI doesn't have any suggestions for manual contact tracing anymore...

[Ein-Tim]

@GisoSchroederSAP

Hey Giso, sorry to bother you again! I really suggest that the text is removed, as first federal states are starting to end obligatory isolation after a positive test. I don't really think that, with this in mind, health authorities will still collect lists for manual contact tracing.

So again, you may want to ask some health authorities about this, or just decide to remove the text.
If you want to do the latter, let me know, and I can provide a PR for iOS.

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@dsarkar (I'm not sure if you're still actively involved in this project or if you're just on vacation) / @brianebeling
Please re-name the 2.29 label to 3.0. Thanks!

[brianebeling]

Whoops, changing the labels didn't go as planned.

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@Ein-Tim @dsarkar will most likely be back in a few weeks. If you have any specific questions or topics I can forward them to him.

[Ein-Tim]

@brianebeling

If you have any specific questions or topics I can forward them to him.

Thanks! Nothing special atm, I just wanted to know if he's still on board (:

[Ein-Tim]

Re-Ping @GisoSchroederSAP

[Ein-Tim]

Hey @GisoSchroederSAP, please take a look at #916 (comment)! Thank you!

[MikeMcC399]

@Ein-Tim

I don't think that changing the one sentence on its own makes sense. As you say, isolation is no longer mandatory in some states so the further text and the FAQ https://www.coronawarn.app/en/faq/results/#quarantine_measures on this subject are not necessarily in line with local regulations.

From Android CWA 3.0 in development:
https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-app-android/blob/000078652baf56d677b026ea8b19730d4a5947fc/Corona-Warn-App/src/main/res/values/strings.xml#L1227-L1231

<string-array name="submission_done_further_info_bullet_points">

• Please monitor how your symptoms develop closely.
• You may be asked by your public health authority to create a list of people you have had contact with. This should include all people with whom you have had close contact with (less than 2 meters, face-to-face conversation) for over 10 minutes in the two days before you became ill. You can use your contact journal for this: simply export the entries and then print them out or send them via e-mail.
• Please particularly consider people who will not be notified directly by the app since they don’t own a smartphone, or haven’t installed the app.
• Even when you no longer have any symptoms and you feel well again, you could still be infectious, so please follow the designated isolation period.

The text at the moment leaves it open about what a local public health authority might request. I think that is good enough at the moment. It is not incorrect to say that it is a possibility that you will be asked to provide a list, even if it is unlikely.

[Ein-Tim]

@MikeMcC399

The text at the moment leaves it open about what a local public health authority might request. I think that is good enough at the moment. It is not incorrect to say that it is a possibility that you will be asked to provide a list, even if it is unlikely.

Maybe it would make sense to rather open an issue asking to re-formulate all the texts taking into account the new situation? But to be honest, the only change I'd recommend is simply dropping bullet point 2 & 3. They are not wrong, that's right. But it doesn't make sense to inform all positive tested people in the CWA about the possibility that the health authority may ask for a contact list, if they only do so in very special cases or in some states in no cases at all.

[MikeMcC399]

@Ein-Tim

Thanks for your link to the CWA 3.0 announcement by BMG on Twitter via Slack.

We now know that CWA 3.0 is targeted for release on Jan 18, 2023, so there will not be any text changes published in the app for at least 5 weeks.

[Ein-Tim]

@MikeMcC399

That's right. Maybe it would make sense to monitor the situation for e.g. 2 more weeks and see if other federal states drop the isolation requirement and then re-asses this issue?

[Ein-Tim]

This has been sufficiently fixed and I'm closing this issue now.