lobster-dao/overview

Description-FAQ of the process

overview's Issues

Nansen

We could buy a couple of perks with the DAO holdings of LOBS and ether from the secondary market sales.

Nansen:

Standard $149/m (personally I think this is the best option, it's also fun)
VIP $1,490/m
Alpha $3,000/m

Glassnode:

Advanced $29/m
Professional $79/m
Institutional: we could discuss our own terms

Others: list them below.

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Currently we have around 1.2k owners. I think it's reasonable to expect we'll have more, but we are unlikely to get anywhere close to 6k. Once that is more clear, we can make a more definitive proposal. (My uneducated guess: we'll have around 2k and 3k holders)

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Discount:

How much of a discount these platforms can give to us? 40%, 50%? We are valuable, influential, respectable and might end up being one of their biggest clients.

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Payment:

50% in Lobs 50% in Ether should be an option. We incentivize them to be part of the community, and also offer some real $ not just commemorative jpegs.

We could use the average sell price of Lobs to price them.

Other option: communicate our interest and wait for their offer.

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Terms:

I think a deal for 1 year would probably be the best for both parts. It would be supercool to have a lifetime deal, but why? On a long enough period, wagmi and won't need it. Also, other platforms might be more interesting then.

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Feasibility:

Currently they are gated by email accounts. Someone would have to build a way to "whitelist" the address from holders - we shouldn't build anything, we are averse to making Ivan work. They might have to set up a "claim discount" page.

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Pros

Not sure if it's unclear for anyone but:

• These tools align perfectly with the goals of the community: they give you the best alpha.
• Lobsters will signal even more strongly that you are well-informed decentralized finance expert.
• Make you want to keep your commemorative lobster for longer.
• Attract the attention of similar projects building for lobster-like people.

Cons

The only I can think of:

• Opportunity cost of spending the beautiful Lobs and ether.

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There's a lot to discuss, and I want to hear you. We can start a draft on hackmd if you want to jump to make it a LIP.

🦞 keep the groups clean of jpeg talk before ivan gets mad 🦞

Ambire

Hey everyone, pleased to meet you!

We're Ambire, formerly AdEx, and we're building a smart wallet that's intended to combine ease of use while still being powerful enough to be your only wallet. It's web based, connects to dApps with WalletConnect and has features like seed-less login, smart recovery, paying gas fees in any ERC20, auto gas fee management, sandwiching protection, HW wallet support, 1 click access to Yearn/Aave and others. It's also open-source and multichain, launching with Ethereum and Polygon.

There will be a token, which will be distributed through long-term liquidity mining. We want to feature a boost/multiplier for LobsterDAO members, as means of involving valuable members of the community more. We would also appreciate beta testing once our updated private beta is live.

Deck: https://docsend.com/view/qijz3atn4j43f3za
Landing page: https://www.ambire.com/
Tokenomics: https://gist.github.com/Ivshti/c6b93745dd0ba0d9c8256bc39769a601
Smart contract documentation: https://github.com/code-423n4/2021-10-ambire

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Hi, how would the proposed boost to LOBS differ from the various boosts, detailed in the user acquisition section of the tokenomics doc?

Ivo — 28/10/2021
We're thinking about a 1.5x boost, like the vampire multiplier.

Of course those boosts compound so you can get multiple

alnash — 28/10/2021

The wallet is not ready yet, right? I'll try it at least on polygon when it's ready.
Gib us a ping then!

Ivo — 28/10/2021
indeed, there is a private beta but we're currently in between a rewrite and it's not ready

Idea: Regular content publishing based on DeFi channel discussions

For now our main chat foucs on telegram and the newsletter of substack is seldom updated. It's a pity if we can't gather the excellent opinion/idea from the community. One way to record these is an article. Although we already have some bots to record the chat content they're not in control of the DAO. We also don't know how long they will maintain. Since we are switching to a DAO I propose a regular publishment from the DAO. The content is produced, controlled by the DAO.

The content can be an original article, curated chat content, an interview etc.

The publishment frequency can be daily, weekly.

The publishment platform can be substack, mirror(I prefer this because this is a web3 publishment platform).

I'd like to hear the community's opinion for this. Should we create a regular content publishment of lobsterdao?

Lobster DAO DeFi con. Prague Autumn 2022

Since we are under bera now and devs can`t do something, this is good time for the meet and greet. The idea is simple and clear: to hold a Lobster DAO DeFi con, where to gather the best buidlers from the DeFi world, exchange experiences and make new contacts. And, of course, dedicate a separate block to the NFT. If the idea is fundamentally interesting, then we can discuss the details and nuances. Thinking about September or October cause at Summer all going to vacations:)
I live in Prague and have experience in holding mass events and festivals, I have the necessary contacts and am ready to organize the conference on the spot. Moreover, surely some of the lobsters also lives here (I remember at least one :)
Why Prague

• The center of Europe, which is convenient to get from both America and Asia;
• Affordable rental of commercial locations;
• Cheap accommodation in hotels and apartments (about 40 euros per night);
• The best beer in the world :)

Idea: "Product Hunt as a protocol"

Everything is here: https://lobsters.substack.com/p/product-hunt-as-a-protocol-or-grassroots

Discuss!

Proposal: NFT drop round 2

Do the second round of distribution for qualified lobsters (based on the spreadsheet) who missed the initial one

By going through the discussions, there are a lot of motivated lobsters who want to be engaged but missed the initial drop due to various dumb reasons (were not online for a few days, were busy with other stuff etc)

IMO will widen the community in a good way and make it generally happier

Acropolis

Hey guys 🙂 Posting here with proposal to the DAO 🙂

We’ve launched a couple of strategies (on Arbitrum & BSC testnet) that utilize basis trading at their core
Looking for feedback/attempts to break it/all the good stuff coming from testing, hope seasoned lobsters will be able to help 🙂

Testnet - https://testnet.akropolis.io/app/vortex
Article about Vortex - https://medium.com/akropolis/vortex-on-akropolis-basis-trading-in-defi-773677e84119
Gitbook - https://akropolis.gitbook.io/akropolis/products/vortex/overview
Proposal - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tAM1dd3AVpxZWHY7zg7mEQqQJ_mLyOQ0KpTb0LJilB8/edit
cc @cia Officer @et (Ivan & BeepBoop suggested posting here)

Create File of Airdrops to Lobters

Description
This isn't meant to be a lengthy proposal or something that requires LOBS payment.
I'm just gauging interest for adding a file to the github repo that shows the details of airdrops/benefits coming to lobster holders.

The file could become a place where projects that are dropping something to LOB holders can come add their info by submitting a pull request.

There is currently a list in telegram being compiled by @LyrrraD that has info on benefits to Lobsters.
The idea is having it here on Github would be easy for everyone to reference and contribute to.

Suggested Format

Date	Name	Contact	Description
October 31	Zombie Lobsters	t.me/zombie-lobs	For Halloween, we will be dropping some spooky monsters to you crustaceans! Boo!
October 23	Mew DAO	discord.gg/fake-link	Our DAO focuses on collecting teh rarest pokemons, and we want active community members as part of our community! Join our Discord for more info...

Prior Work
There's a thread in telegram by @LyrrraD that's currently compiling a list of benefits to Lobsters.
https://t.me/lobsterdao/9219

Implementation
If this issue gets a good response I'll create a pull request.
And if there are any ideas on how this could be done better, let's discuss and I will help in working towards implementing it.

Idea: Put treasury funds into yield farming

At the moment the DAO has about 78 ETH sitting idle in the treasury.
There's no clear decision yet on what the fund must be used for. And it's still not clear when such a decision will appear.

I would propose to put the most part (like 90%) of the fund into a reasonably reliable yield farming project.

For example, as far as I can see, Yearn currently offers about 2.5% on ETH -- i.e. on 70 ETH it's about 0.004 ETH per day. The vesting project is subject for discussion, though.

Pros:

• the DAO will earn additional profit doing almost nothing.

Cons:

• the project can be hacked/rugged/exploited and the fund will be lost;
• if withdrawn too early, the fund can actually lose because of tx fees.

Note 1. The DAO must keep a relatively small amount (like 10%) of liquid funds for 'ongoing needs' (like 2 ETH for the deal with Rarity.tools).

Note 2. The possible agreement with Gearbox must be taken into account, maybe decision should be postponed until it's finalized.

Note 3. The yield profits should go to the DAO for now, they're simply too small to be distributed.

Additionally I would say to move the DAO fund to L2 (Optimism/Arbitrum) in order to save on fees. But l'm too smal brain for such proposal.

Discussion: VC DAO

So the VC DAO idea has been popping up many times. Let's argue about it here and provide all the arguments and counter arguments in one place.

The idea is that the DAO's funds can be used to invest into projects, e.g. buying pre-sales and whatever.

Let's debate.

DFX

So, DFX people propose to drop us KPI tokens which represent an option to claim underlying DFX tokens if DFX project achieves certain level of TVL by Jan 2022.

The KPI themselves are not traded (afaik) and are themselves worthless. However, if the project succeeds, we can turn them into useful DFX that have a price.

However, the current proposition from DFX people is to drop KPI only to e.g. top 200 participants. That is selective and I'm not sure is a good idea, 'cause might split the community into haves and have nots.

We need to come up with an idea what to propose instead of this setup so it works for both DFX and us.

Ideas?

Discord: should we make it to organize DAO work?

The problem:
Very hard to manage many different directions of work in a one-channel chat like TG. We need separate info flow and working groups on each project partnership, governance discussions, internal organizational work, marketing work and so on.

Did a pre-vote in tele, 50 people voted, 90% said they'd join.

Pros:

• Allows to structure the work the way it needs to be structures.

Cons:

• I dislike discord.
• Another new chat to manage.
• Splitting people attention once again.

Alternative solution

• None?
• We can stay in Telegram, but it's already a mess.

Gearbox

Based on Ivan's Tweet and on noble and good motives, I would like to present some ideas for reflection.

Gearbox is an interesting project and I think our cooperation should be mutually beneficial. We should receive as well as give something back, the same and vice versa.

In this regard, I have these ideas:

1. Make Degenscore 2000+ equal to holding 3 (or 1?) NFTs so that users will get an access to Gearbox's beta

2. Since Lobsters has lots of devs in it, maybe Lobster dao can help Gearbox and projects in general to manage some kind of community run microgrants program and amplify the grants/bounties available in the chat/hr? Our chat also can help in bug escalating in case of project's ghosting (code platforms like Immunefi might like it).

3. Telegram has audio rooms with very user-friendly controls (better than ClubHouse) - we could use this feature for pitching projects and hosting our own podcasts. I think Gearbox can pitch on them, as well as other projects? Such events would be widely advertised and announced in advance. We already have a this perfect channel administrator with an experience of running international twitter voicerooms and CIA Officer (me) helping out.

4. Give crossPR (Lobster DAO will provide it and hopes on Twitter mentions and reposts, can be discussed in each single case) stuff for projects via articles, microgrant-funded researches, etc...

Appreciate ideas and discussion!

Idea: Use SafeSnap

Somebody made the first proposal to enable SafeSnap feature by Gnosis, which makes sure that snapshot votes have technical force on what the multisig can do. I fully support it and voted YES. LINK HERE TO VOTE

Idea: Airdrop structure – drop to DAO, stake stable side, DAO provides token side, distribute rewards to holders

So @Don_Luv has proposed this interesting idea:

Idea for a lobster farm. Tell me if this is dumb/impossible, or has already been proposed and I missed it:

• Protocol (i.e. Geist) does an airdrop only to the LobsterDAO multisig, not Lobs holders
• LobsterDAO multisig uses airdrop to provide liquidity, other half of the liquidity pair coming pro rata from lobs holders
• 100% of rewards go back, pro rata, to lobs who provided the liquidity

Benefits:

• For airdropping protocol
  a) This would give protocols giving us a airdrop more comfort about us not dumping, without need for vesting. So long as they only airdrop the DAO they only need to think about the DAO being a good actor and don't have to think about what proportion of Lobs holders are good actors, or worry about managing vesting periods.

• for lobs holders
  a) Allows Lobs to farm at a 50% discount as 100% of farm rewards (or 90%, whatever) could go back to lobs providing the other half of the pair.
  b) drives interest/another reason to hold/acquire lobs

• for LobsterDAO
  a) This mechanism grows DAO treasury exclusively by the value of Lobs it holds, and the airdropped tokens it receives, keeping little to non of the farming rewards. This way LobsterDAO is incetivised to see the long term success of projects it does this with in terms of token price appreciation.
  b) Allows LobsterDAO to manage/build reputation in the space as a good actor without needing to contend with user behaviour of 20% of holders who dump (or somesuch)

LobsterDAO itself could then manage when farmers get their rewards back, if it's not built to allow entry/exit at will and makes it easy for airdroppers. There would be some mechanics to work out re undersubscription and shifting price of pair while DAO members lock up their capital before it closes, but those are implementation details to which there are multiple solutions

Arable Protocol <> Lobster DAO partnership

Arable's goal

Bringing all cross-chain yield farms on a single chain, make it easier for yield farmers to switch their portfolios without any risks and make it convenient.
Arable utilizes synthetic farming concept - it's the first concept no one did before.

Our project will be launching on Avalanche and after that will be scaling to other EVM networks and after that will be scaling to non-evm networks as well

We are looking to launch in January - currently, we are ready for beta testnet and looking to start incentivized testnet within this week.

What benefit we give to Lobster DAO members

• We are giving 10% of airdrop (4 million ACRE tokens) to Lobster DAO NFT holders as we feel Lobster DAO is a pretty clean community that we like to invite for our DAO infra. For people who are not interested in the project, feel free to sell the tokens and leave, for interested users, we welcome you to be the DAO member with airdrop tokens + your staking rewards.
• Airdrop does not have vesting period

What we want from Lobster DAO members

• Promote Arable project on Lobster DAO, e.g. setup regular AMA with Lobster DAO members
• Provide opinions and improvement proposals on our regularly updating products

References

Website - https://arablefi.com
Testnet application - https://app.arablefi.com
App introduction youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_iJINLykls
Tokenomics article - https://medium.com/@ArableProtocol/acre-token-distribution-2f03c936189b
Pitch deck draft - https://github.com/ArableProtocol/arableintro/blob/main/Arable%20Pitch%20Deck%20Draft.pdf
Arable paper - https://github.com/ArableProtocol/arableintro/blob/main/Arable%20Protocol%20%5BDraft%5D.pdf
Litepaper - https://github.com/ArableProtocol/arableintro/blob/main/Arable_Litepaper.pdf

Discussion: LOBS Due Diligence Checklist

Introduction
Lobsters need claws to protect them from bad partnerships.
The checklist linked below is meant to be a starting point for developing that defense.

Document
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13pg_EuroXk8YF0cOS4N_wp-xsTAsitAV1oTBJDnKy5s/edit?usp=sharing

Improvements
Feel free to edit the document directly or add comments here or on the document, to improve the checklist.

Discussion: Non-Ethereum projects

A lot is happening outside of the Ethereum ecosystem. I know we've never explicitly sworn loyalty to Ethereum, just want to see if there is interest in alternative chains at all.

What do you think about pursuing projects on other chains and trying to make deals with them?

Pros:

• More projects to partner with
• Lower transaction fees might increase participation
• We might attract additional testers looking to invest in a certain chain, ex: Arbitrum airdrop miners
• Generally good for the industry, encourages diversification and competition

Cons:

• Already hard to keep track of news and events in one ecosystem
• Further fragmentation
• The learning curve, need to install new wallets, sync nodes, use bridges, etc

There really are 2 questions

1. Do you think we should look into other chains at this stage?
2. If yes, what chains? We can vote and focus on 2-3 most popular.

Brink

Brink aims to automate transactions (like trades, lending/borrowing positions, liquidity providing) with a generic framework where you can schedule transactions with conditions which will only be executed when conditions apply. https://www.brink.trade/ https://github.com/orgs/brinktrade/repositories
Just to give a rough intro. Sure @justin Bram will check out the business level with you 🙂

LobsterDAO to review protocols seeking a gauge on Curve?

https://gov.curve.fi/t/the-curve-emergency-dao-has-killed-the-usdm-gauge/2307/15

Please, read the discussion above, specifically the linked comment.

Some members of LobsterDAO are more than capable of achieving the task in question and there's a salary mentioned from the Curve community fund.

A potential collaboration in this regard between LobsterDAO and Curve/Convex might finally show what the purpose of our DAO is.

Partnership with True Freeze Public Good

Hi all,

This is Charliemarketplace.eth writing (2 Lob holder). We at Deep Freeze LLC are launching a public good patience primitive called True Freeze. Link to preliminary landing page: https://truefreeze.xyz

Product

We've created an immutable/permissionless on-chain Certificates of Deposit ecosystem for blockchain native assets. You lock ETH for your chosen amount of time. You get paid a yield token, frETH as a F(amount, time). You also mint a Freezer NFT representing your deposit. The yield token's value (in ETH) is determined by the free market.

You get 1 frETH for locking 1 ETH out of circulation for 1 year. This is why we call it a "proof of patience".

The Freezer NFTs can be traded on any NFT marketplace and they function exactly the same way as zero-coupon bonds for pricing purposes. This is the key innovation of True Freeze- making it possible to buy ETH with ETH, e.g., buying a 50 ETH Freezer NFT that matures in 1 year for < 50 ETH.

This is risk minimized DeFi. No oracles, no liquidations, no collateral, no impermanent loss. Pure money for on-chain proof of patience.

The engine behind all of this is the FRZ revenue token. If you are patient and your CD matures, you can withdraw your ETH for 0% frETH fees and 0% ETH penalty (i.e., you earned all the frETH you minted and were paid upfront). BUT- early withdrawals require X frETH and 0.25% ETH penalty. Where X is a G(amount, time) and G() > F() for the first 66% of the lock time (see diagram here: https://truefreeze.xyz/mechanics#redeem)

These early withdrawal fees go to stakers of the FRZ token.

To maintain a multi-century anti-fragile tokenomics design; FRZ inflates (see here: https://truefreeze.xyz/mechanics#frz)

This inflation taxes holders of FRZ and forces them into a "Curve War" style fight to accumulate newly inflated FRZ to retain their % of revenue flow. Newly minted FRZ is distributed to everyone who has ever burnt frETH. Burning frETH earns a proportional new FRZ forever. (See the Curve War parallel?)

For more details on why this is sustainable tokenomics see the "Flywheel" diagram here: https://truefreeze.xyz/tokenomics#flywheel

Proposal

Deep Freeze LLC is a very small scrappy team trying to do something cool in public goods. We aren't equipped to create a DAO, run operations, a multi-sig, found a team, raise money, etc. to monopolize on this product. So we want to find DAOs/Protocols to adopt this public good.

All the code is done and its been audited. We're launching in two weeks. We are already planning to airdrop the FRZ revenue token to Lobster Holders. But we wanted to do something interesting and also airdrop to DAOs.

We'd like to airdrop 2% of the initial FRZ supply on ETH to the LobsterDAO multi-sig. This would function as a grant for you all to fund your building. You can stake it, grant it, etc. We hope you don't dump immediately, but technically can't stop you.

Ideal scenario is that by doing this, LobsterDAO has a sense of ownership (along with other recipients) of the public good and feels inclined to use True Freeze, help market it so people claim the airdrop, and maybe even build automated strategies on top of it or integrate it into other products.

Thank you! See PDF version of explainer here:
Deep Freeze Explainer.pdf

⚠️TRADE OFFER⚠️🧂🤝🦞

⚠️TRADE OFFER⚠️

🧂Salty Loot 🤝 Lobster NFT 🦞

What is Salty Loot?

Salty Loot bags contain randomized nautical gear and treasure dredged up from the depths. Any bag you grab is randomly generated and stored immutably on chain. Other properties and functions are intentionally omitted for anyone to interpret. Feel free to use however you want.

Why Salty Loot?

Inspired by Lobsters NFT and Loot Project, Salty Loot is a fun experiment in creating a new, nautical-themed loot bag which contains a weapon, armor, headgear, waist, 2x spells and 2x treasures. Animations are included with the addition of a standardised gold shimmer effect on the text and unique, randomised wave patterns.

How Salty Loot?

For the first 48 hours:

• 6751 allo to Lobster NFT holders
• 1000 allo to Loot NFT holders
• 500 allo to CryptoPunks NFT holders
• 500 allo to BAYC NFT holders

ALL will be free to mint and ALL unclaimed Salty Loots after 48 hours will be unlocked for anyone to mint, so qualified addresses should claim asap or get rekt. There is a limit of 2 claims per 0x for Loot/Punk/Ape holders to encourage wider distribution. Some extra randomization is also implemented to prevent users from easily gaming to mint rares.

Offer

Following deployment and OpenSea profile setup, the smart contract ownership and 7.5% royalty distribution can be set to the Lobster DAO multisig in exchange for 20-80 LOBS NFT.

Vote

👍 80 40 LOBS
❤️ 70 35 LOBS
🎉 60 30 LOBS
😄 50 25 LOBS
🚀 40 20 LOBS
😕 30 15 LOBS
👀 20 10 LOBS
👎 10 5 LOBS

https://twitter.com/Salty_Loot

Questions and feedback welcome!

New Logo & Branding

There been a logo discussion over the past months but i was busy back then‚
I would like to contribute with a branding design regarding the lobster logo and the lobster nft and any future plans‚
If that subject still up i would like to get a few answers regarding the direction of the branding matter to start working on the task

These question consisting of several matters ;tldr this is a brief

Contents below described with images included with every style

1-Logo values and desired style (Monogram, Wordmarks, Pictorial marks (symbol), Abstract mark, Mascot, Combination mark (a combined wordmark and pictorial mark, abstract mark, or mascot) or Emblem)

2-Colors (Solid) regarding the color characteristic or Gradient

3-Typography (for future usage in product design)

that's it for now, further questions will be applied after approval of the proposal.

if you have any questions or suggestions regarding the proposal feel free you are welcomed

Thank you all for your time.

LobsterDAO: Official song and video from ZeusXCorona

We can get an official LobsterDAO song made with a 3D video by an upcoming artist called ZeusXCorona for 3ETH or 4LOBS(cheaper to liquidate and pay ETH). Could be a fun thing

DeFiHelper (partnership)

What is DeFiHelper?

DeFiHelper is a cross-chain non-custodial investment tool that helps investors of any scale to easily manage and automate their investments across other DeFi protocols.

Its key features include:

1. Advanced auto-compounding. DFH helps you earn more on staking by automatically adding your profits to the deposit, effectively auto-compounding your interest. Our mathematical model makes decisions by taking into account current and historical fees, the prices of tokens, and other factors. The model was devised by Ilya Munerman, a mathematician and lecturer at the New Economic School and HSE University.

2. No-code automation. Create automated investment strategies without having to know coding.

3. Portfolio management. Monitor and manage your portfolios across various blockchains: Ethereum, Avalanche, BSC, Polygon, Moonbeam. More blockchain integrations are planned for the near future.

4. Notifications. Get notifications on important market movements and updates on the protocols users follow.

DFH is a non-custodial service and does not store users’ funds on general contracts. Instead, DFH deploys an individual contract for each user. The contract is then used for automating routine activities. The source code of the contract is open and anyone can see which functions are available to the owner of the contract and which are designed for the service. Here is an example of a contract. Pay attention to the onlyOwner modifier, since it is assigned to methods that can only be called by the owner of the contract — the user of DFH.

The audit of DFH smart contracts was made by HashEx.

In the last two weeks, DFH has raised several hundreds of thousands of dollars from a number of US-based venture funds.

What LobsterDAO can offer

1. Beta testing;
2. Suggestions of new product features;
3. Cross-promotion opportunities;
4. Introduction to crypto venture capital firms;
5. Introduction to DeFi protocols DeFiHelper can partner with.

What DeFiHelper can offer

The DeFiHelper team can retain up to 3% of DFH tokens from the Advisors’ budget and distribute them among LobsterDAO members contributing to the project. The tokens will be distributed via 1-year lock and 12-month per-block release.

The public token sale is set for February/March of 2022. The expected market valuation at the token sale is around $800,000.

DeFiHelper can also make its paid features free for LobsterDAO members.

Links

Website: https://defihelper.io/
Litepaper: https://defihelper.io/static/media/DeFiHelper_litepaper.pdf
Tokenomics: https://defihelper.io/tokenomics

Bug: Fixing "Untextered" trait

Just to document it here. In the middle of talking to rarity.tools they asked us to fix the Untextered trait before they'll list us. Klibansky is for fixing it too, as he said it wasn't intentional and is a typo. That would require uploading new metadata to ipfs and a tx changing the metadata link in the smart contract. Working on it.

LOBS Analytics

Context:
As mentioned in the chat by Ivan, the DAO will hold back from minting unclaimed LOBS (to save gas).
Because of this it is assumed that OpenSea and the likes will only pick up the traits & rarity of the current supply and not include the (large portion) of the DAO's NFT's.

Proposal:
This is a short proposal to generate analytics on the full set of the 6751 available LOBS.

I will generate for the full list of LOBS;

• Holder Address
• Image Link
• Rarity (%) of all traits
• Rarity Score
• Relative Rarity Ranking

See the below screenshot for an example of another collection;

Will also group the rarity score's by address so we can rank each address/member 🥇

How:
I'll parse the raw JSON metadata of all LOBS and provide the code & a spreadsheet of the above (that we can re-run adhoc).
Holders will be able to filter down to their address and see the data across multiple LOBS.

Payment:
I missed the bot claim by a few hours & DM'd days before the mint (before we saw the value..) and I want one of these fancy fucking crab claws an irrational amount. This is my way of giving back something to get one.
So, 1 LOB from the treasury (my unclaimed one) for this.

It's likely this doesn't pass before Wednesday's reveal (let's be honest, I'll do the work anyway) but there is the issue of if this passes what LOB do I get?
I'd like to keep it completely random.
We can say that I get the direct next available LOBS id or even just do a random number generator of the DAO LOBS.. if a big brain has a better solution to randomise all the better.

Pros:

• Community building / hype for reveal
• Find out who has the biggest horseshoe
• See if Ivan gmi or ngmi
• Pray that some 3 post anon doesn't get the diamond claw together
• I will likely add more analytics to this in the future
• Keep track of flippers so we can bring out the guillotine
• See how much good art the DAO is sitting on

Cons:

• 1 LOB cost - given from treasury to community member.

Action:

• Post feedback if you want this to happen
• If enough interest, then we can make a snapshot

LobsterDAO: Governance process standardization

As Lobs spread across the digital ocean, there's likely to be greater discussion, more options, disparate opinion and the potential for disharmony.

A more rigid governance process would ensure that important issues are discussed, support sought and only the highest quality proposals are voted on. This is a discussion starter, rather than a solidified proposal. My thoughts on this:

• Require an issue/proposal to be discussed and support gathered informally for a set period, or have a quorum of informal support. This may require migration to a more suited platform with poll facility (eg. commonwealth).

• If majority support exists, move to a formal proposal with a standardised template (we could adopt something like a stripped down version of a Maker MIP)

• Proposals submitted formally through a few nominated Governance facilitators. This keeps actual voting (snapshot) clean and with proposals that meet criteria and support.

Cheers!

Private TG /Discord channel for LobsterDAO NFT holder

Creating the private communication channel for LobasterDAO community only for true nft holders, and keep the public group there for daily content contribution and discuss the insight. This can be save the alpha from info channel in the DAO as most of membership DAOs are doing (eg. proof.xyz etc.. ), and can also leverage the NFT value onto the next level.

The current problem is all groups are open and public, all holder and non-holder share the same info channel and benefit from it and no alpha distinguished , sometimes the info alpha is more valuable than airdrop or beta test priority.

Lobster DAO Merch Proposal

Gm Lobsters!

You know me as the admin in the chat lobster DAO, but few people know that I used to do high-end clothing. I would like to make a gift to the Lobster DAO community and give away a certain amount of hoodies!

A few words about delivery before we started: I will need the recipient's name and address (including the ZIP code) in as much detail as possible. The delivery will be made personally by my good friend from the store in Moscow or handdeliver. Those who have something to fear and those who don't want to trust me can not participate in this event. For the rest - shipping is possible worldwide.

Here are my ideas at the moment:

1 - I don't want to burn NFT for merch. Many projects have tried to do this they keep having different difficulties.

2 - I will make this trope completely free and take care of shipping costs

3 - Was thinking of giving the merch away for achievements, or for participating in some new made up promotion. What are your ideas?

4 - I would like to make unique merch. Maybe add an AR in there, but that would require help.

5 - What do you think of the design?

And finally, a few words about the hoodie. As I said in the beginning - I used to make clothes. As an example - manufactured hoodies. The distinctive feature is the interfering film of metal. At the same time the hoodies can be washed without any harm. They shine incredibly cool. This technology is used only by the manufacturers of AMD stickers and Balenciaga. The hoodie is 80 percent cotton.

Very raw designs made in Photoshop:

Proposal: Burn Ivans NFTs so he ngmi [Test]

I think this is a good idea.

Vote here: https://snapshot.org/#/lobsterdao.eth/proposal/QmfEqngSUDtZHgQf5U9wEpkskwK38zWKbyEeWp3pfz2hPE

(This is a test to check whether we can use this for governance discussions.)

Partnerships: What do we want projects to give us?

Here is a general project proposal outline.

Currently, we ask for a potentially vested airdrop or "some other benefits".

We can just leave it as it is, or we can be more specific on what constitutes "other benefits".

What are we willing to do the work for?

Genesis Shards

Got in touch with the Genesis Shards team, they are interested in partnering with LobsterDAO too

They hold pre-IDOs for tokens through NFT sharding giving them access to multiple DeFi + NFT projects

Need inputs on how we can beneficially use the same

1. LobsterHR contribution for projects that require people from LobsterDAO as per need
2. Allocation(for DAO) as per project basis, this can enable the DAO to invest early in certain projects at even seed stage
3. Allocation on the gen-shards access to invest in pre-IDOs for the members(?)
4. Access to liquidity mining, staking programs for their projects
5. LobsterDAO NFT holders can get a call with the gen-shards team to hold pre-IDOs
6. Access to momentum6 for investement pitching for NFT holders
   7.(?)

Requesting more ideas for a mutually beneficial partnership for the same

Will help close the partnership if the proposal goes through when floated

LobsterDAO: List of people with media following (add yourself)

Obviously, among other advantages, LobsterDAO has such a resource as the owners of telegram channels, YouTube blogs and Twitter. For any project that is interested in cooperation with the Lobsters, product promotion is also important. As such, it could become an important part of the Lobster service package. Add yourself to the list, while in no particular order, and after finalizing the list, we will make a structure for different languages
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10LH-vSft765JAGPA0LHvh1hfBRHE4MnD/edit#gid=945063284

LOBS.ART - a terminal for artist drop on LOBs

TLDR: I would grant 1 LOB to make smartcontract/ site, which help an artist do a permissionless drop on LOB holders.

Details below:

Context:
With the LOBS revealing is coming close. As much as many people want to contribute for the LObs DAO, I want to make an Generative art drop on LOBs Holders. But I don't know where to ask, or which dev should i trust. (I'm such a pleb)

Proposal:
I would grand 1 LOB for any person or team reaching out and do :

• A smartcontract template that ultilise all the data of LOBS traits for minting.
• A UI/UX for artist to do bulk minting (both JPG and metadata) which integrates with traits data above.
• A UI/UX for people to claim or at least searching for what they could mint with LOBs in their wallet.

Some specs i think would be needed for a future drops:

• Royalty (0-10% for artist, 2.5% for LOBs treasury, 0.1% for SC audited board/person )
• Mint fee (may be less than 0.1 ETH )
• Bulk minting (as many holders want to save gas)
• An audited tick from a trusted person, who will get the 0.1% above to help artists.

Some other ideas (optional) :

• Auction mint.
• Secret mint for specific LOBs.
• Decaying mint (say like if the drop isn't minted it in specific time, then it can't be minted anymore )

This is not a community proposal as i would grant my LOBs for anyone can help. Please reaching out to me in NFT avenue if needed.

GOGOcoin Partnership Proposal

Hey guys, here’s a proposal for the Dao :)

We’d like to offer Lobster NFT holders the chance to get a free CryptoGOGOs NFT via airdrop. This NFT has the power to supercharge your yield by up to 45% on GOGOcoin. It grants access to an exclusive channel on our discord in which we share alpha and give out rewards. Plus CryptoGOGOs have an exciting future with a community P2E game and metaverse on the roadmap.

Find out more about the CryptoGOGOs NFT in partnership with Polygon Studios here

Who is Eligible?

Lobster NFT holders are eligible for this drop.

To receive a CryptoGOGOs NFT, eligible users need to:

Complete this form with just 5 short market research questions and a Polygon address.

You can learn more about GOGOcoin here

Thank you for supporting the GOGOcoin community!

Dune Analytics Dashboard

Due to requests in chat I built a Dune analytics dashboard for Lobsterdao.

The current state is available at https://dune.xyz/kwizzles/LobsterDAO

I am glad for any input one what to change add and to maintain this long term.

The possibility of a Lobster as compensation was mentioned in chat ( https://t.me/lobsters_chat/311771 ) and I'd be happy to receive one and to further finetune and improve the dashboard according to community feedback.

As said before, feel free to drop me any ideas for further improvements

DeSci World

Hey all, from DeSciWorld. We are building to push the culture and create an ecosystem to support "DeSci" as a concept: solving problems in the scientific community through decentralised blockchain solution. DeSciDAO will collate, utilise and deploy funds in the Ethereum ecosystem to help further this goal.

Much like DeFi has begun to revolutionise finance, DeSci will disrupt and improve science.

🦞 What can DeSciWorld contribute to LobsterDAO?

DeSciWorld is working with people in the research field that have yet to interact at all with crypto. Most are completely unaware of the opportunities and communities around in this space. On our server, we have three key sections (research, art, DeFi) and we expect people from all three industries to join and contribute.

LobsterDAO, with it's high level knowledge of crypto and DeFi, would be a perfect place to direct users towards that want to learn more. During a situation in which, for example, our PhD researchers are contributing to DeSciWorld but wanted to join a thriving DeFi community to learn more, we would direct them towards LobsterDAO. Collabs can also include: NFT content airdrops to LOBS holders; LobsterDAO research grant proposals; featured partners in DeFi; leveraging connections that we garner for LobsterDAO's benefit.

🌎 How can LobsterDAO contribute to us?

• ecosystem support from those that believe in the vision of DeSci
• membership growth
• idea sharing
• increased optics (Twitter, Discord, TG)

DeSciWorld has no token / presale / equity share, but there is a small NFT drop which will give holders Early Adopter status (4th November).
Discord: https://discord.gg/qRup8WzAb9
Twitter: https://twitter.com/DeSciWorld
🌐 Website: https://desci.world/
🎨 Details of the NFT and the utility here: https://t.co/jxSp66D2tV?amp=1
🇵🇹 DeSciWorld in Lisbon: https://t.co/qBDdBVdOQ0?amp=1

Any questions, please just ask!

Explicitly mentioned value add for airdroppers: second set of eyes on their smart contracts

Random sketch of an idea on how to make airdropping to $LOBS more attractive for projects. Many projects would probably be glad for a second set of eyes on their smart contracts to debug them. We can assemble a list of typical vulnerabilities / mistakes and maybe check for them as part of the proposition. Also suggests a possible relationship with ImmuneFi?

Feedback so far:

Graham:
With the number of good developers on the airdrop list this type of proofread or preliminary check will likely happen by default. We could somehow help that be known as a benefit though.

Eugene:
yeah, that's kinda the point. It should probably be explicitly stated as a benefit if it's gonna happen anyway. Also we as a community can systematize it a bit, if there isn't yet a good resource on what vulnerabilities to check for.

Another point is that if it's explicitly stated, projects might want to come to us at earlier stage.

Amazongirl:
We need to canvas the skill set of the lob community and make up a list of skills we can offer to project founders, such as product testing, fundraising, marketing, collaboration opptys (many lobs are probably project founders themselves), and so on.

scar:
Ok but what makes being a lob a benefit? Code423 incentives it already. And like it was mentioned immunefi too. So what would make lobs incentivized to do it as lobs

Eugene:
make the package sweeter? It's not the only thing the community might provide, but an additional part

if the only thing they want is the audit from a couple of guys working in an audit firm, or from a bunch of (unaffiliated?) bug hunters on ImmuniFi – sure, it's better to go there

scar:
Perhaps we could be the light at the the tunnel. The mentions of bug finders reporting bugs and not getting rightful recognition or even ghosted

Maybe as lobs are some of the most recognized devs. We could help figure out whether that bug was exploitable or not and make sure researchers and protocols abide by the law

Eugene:
as a potential benefit to ImmuneFi the community might provide a shame deterrent to those who are ghosting

scar:
I get your point. But imagine the next meme coin bragging about being audited by lobs

Graham:
We would want a disclaimer stating that it is in no way an endorsement or formal audit.

Gas One Cent:
The reviews can expand to docs and UI/UX to allow non-tech people to participate

Lobsterdao 3D | Seashells | 10b57e6 fa5h10N

Context:
I recently released an interactive 3D visualiser for Lobster NFT's, made during the EthGlobal hackathon. 'Seashells' , Generating unique 3D version of each lobsterdao NFT.

You can try it at (play on PC) : https://seashells.embracingearth.space/,
alt link: https://worldsz.github.io/Seashells_10b57e6/

Lobster NFT got released and had proper analytics sheets which caught my eye at the same time I was experimenting around this idea of 3D visualiser for 2D NFT's and they all fell together. At a Macro level, the project showcases the integration of NFT's in a game engine by different API systems, IPFS databases and wrapping of thousands of 2D NFT's to thousands of their corresponding unique 3D versions.

For Lobs Community:

• Adds another infinity to Lobster NFT's infinite glory!
• Gives you a lot more unique and 3D variations of pfp's/gifs of your same NFT.
• Showcased LobsterDao at EthGlobal
• Provides a base Project for all 6751 unique 3D interactive lobsters in some future integration with any Metaverse game like protocols.

Request:
I've been a long member of Lobster community as sz , initially, I was obligated to get 3 drops, my wallet also got hacked amidst submission and claim and things didn't go straight. I would like to propose a proposal for 0, 1, 2 or 3 (creating proposals) Lobs.
I Kind of had a product-first approach here, and a fun project I wanted to try on.
If it's worthy of the request or not, is for the lobster community to decide, I thought it's worth a try and hence here it is :)

Pros and Cons:
Pros:
Some of these are already mentioned in the context section and that'll stay going forward such as AN AWESOME 3D VERSION of your NFT, as a version of the project is already up and out there and some has happened like showcasing LobsterDao to a global community at EthGlobal Hackathon. Furthermore in conjunction of my request:

• Encourages more projects/individuals/ideas to build with LobsterDao in unique ways. 'Building' - IMO, a bit different to using lobs for airdrops and access.
• Might be a start to something :)
• A good use and release of extra stuck lobs.
• Adds another member with a Lobs pfp (3d)

Cons:

• Loss of Lobs from the treasury to a contributing community member.
• I can finally verify and enter Lobs discord kingdom

Extra acknowledgement: Thanking msirinotis #17 and the lobster community for passing that as that work has informed this one and uses that analytics sheet as a database refrence.

Convert Treasury to stETH

There are currently 117.707 ETH and 6.3738 WETH in treasury. Converting this to stETH would enable treasury to earn staking rewards.

Specifically, I'd propose we convert 6.3738 WETH and 115 ETH to stETH.

stETH is Lido's liquid Ethereum staking product. More information about the product, rewards, etc can be found here:

https://lido.fi/ethereum

There are risks associated with staking with Lido and those are outlined here:

https://help.lido.fi/en/articles/5230603-what-are-the-risks-of-staking-with-lido

In closing, the current rewards are mid single digits, but with the merge hopefully happening in a few months this is expected to rise significantly.

CoinList

gib karmapoints to lobster holders

LIP 1: Retroactive and Burn

This Lobster Improvement Proposal is based on extensive Telegram, Twitter, and Github discussions from previous issue. This is just my imho, as I am not in control of the multisig or the minting or the deployment. If the DAO decides the same or differently, the execution would need to hit quorum. I rest my case.

There were two objectives which had to be addressed:

1. If there should be any drop to those who missed the bot, and if so - how.
2. If there should be burn, extra distribution, or other actions pre-reveal.

Retroactive late airdrop is not possible, unfortunately!

If you read this, please make sure you follow the context from the link quoted in the first sentence. You need to have context to be able to argue. Basically, it's physically-technically impossible to bend the ruled in such a way as to allow members to get their drop as they could have without distorting the flow too much.

The issue is that the reveal gets delayed (which goes against the collection rules - and that is not okay). And post-reveal, it would be extremely unfair to the lootbox design because people will see what they can claim, and then they will get fucked by MEV (see the bottom of the post). Overall, please read the arguments in the previous issue on why extending bot or doing post-reveal is just bad and unfair. Therefore, unfortunately, as much as I personally like the idea of having everyone in - there doesn't seem to be a fair & just way to have the late joiners in. Yet. Those members who missed might get their NFT on some new distribution cycle, without any expectations. Because if you were active before but missed - but you are smart - you can be active again and somehow get in the club! Simple, right? And also simple from the tech perspective.

The objective was never to cap it by time, or exclude anyone. This is a retroactive airdrop, so everyone who missed should potentially get it hypothetically. People could be on a retreat or busy with their launches, it's not unusual. Or they could have been a bit mia. I don't agree with "oef if you were not online for 2 weeks screw you" - it might be factually correct, but this is a genuine community, so let's not argue this way.

Proposal 1.1: no changes to be made. It goes as is. No tech works extra required.

No burn or changes to the DAO portion

I personally don't think the DAO should have 49% as it's against what NFTs have had today - but maybe this is new? That was not the objective to keep so many, but that was how devs made the contract. And those are the rules = remaining go to DAO. Not anyone's fault that happened. So, artist value and other comments aside - doing NOTHING is the correct way, because it prompts the least intervention from anyone inside or outside. And one more argument... to burn, DAO first needs to claim (if I understand contracts correctly?) That means spending 300K USD in ETH gas fees to be able to burn. That's not something feasible. So DAO can't burn (?)

What happens then? Nothing. DAO has a right to the pieces but does not mint them. Everyone knows what outstanding pieces are, but DAO can decide to NEVER mint them. Or never use them. The point is: let people decide later. These can be used for anything or nothing. In 1 year or 100 years or never. I have no control of this, you have no control of this.

Proposal 1.2: no changes to be made. DAO decides later or never. Nobody will touch the collection.

PS IMPORTANT: I am not in control of this anymore. I don't control the collection, the multisig, the snapshot page, or anything. There are multiple admins and owners. I rest my case here, I have my own project(s) I am busy with. No work, feedback, or anything should be expected from me personally - or from admins. Do whatever you want. Enjoy art and piss off <3 The objective of this LIP is to also prove that the original members made something and shipped it away, retaining no decision-making powers or control: anon devs deployed it, and it works as such. That's all.

KEY MEV NOTICE

If you know how MEV works, and if you have NFT claims outstanding - you can technically frontrun DAO claims later on to get the NFT that you want, because on how tokenID<>ipfs path get matched. This is just a heads up that if you already claimed - you will just get your path, so never mind. But those trying to claim later post-reveal can either get super lucky or super unlucky. At the time of writing, about 80% of people claimed, so this is more of a notification to the DAO if the DAO decides to ever mint. The DAO needs to be careful of MEV if it ever comes across to the rare pieces mint block.

I rest my case. Have people decide what they want. I will just watch from the sidelines after creating LIP 1.

Listing on rarity.tools

Not my idea, but someone needed to make the issue.

Pros:

• additional exposure so people can find lobsters where people are already looking for other projects
• somewhat useful established rarity tool
• potentially fixable to include unminted lobsters (though I personally prefer not to include them into rarity calculations and instead to see how rare what is already there)

Cons:

• 2 ETH price

My argument to justify the cost goes as follows:
If listing on rarity.tools for 2 ETH will probably bring a 100 ETH more trading volume over a lifetime of LOBS because of additional exposure, then royalties bring 5.25 ETH to the DAO and the listing pays for itself.

Idea: Translate channel into other languages

Hi, friends

First of all, I would like to thank the creators of LobsterDAO for such an exciting event with NFT. I even got 1 Lobster for my activity and am very happy! Great things are waiting for us!

I joined this community not so long ago on the advice of a friend. I needed an answer to one question to develop a blockchain script. I was very surprised when Andre Cronje answered me and realized that LobsterDAO is a really strong community with people who are ready to help and give advice in difficult cases.
I have always been answered and have never been ignored. Thank you all friends!

But here's the problem. My English is not good enough to fluently check the news from the chat, so I decided to make a couple of channels for myself with translations into my native language:
https://t.me/lobsterdao_ru
https://t.me/lobsterdao_kingdom_ru

Now the bot is able to forward a message in the format:
User
Text
Original message

Also does Reply so that you can trace the sequence of dialogues.
So far, the bot uses not very high-quality Google Translate. I did comparative tests and found better and paid solutions.

You can also use them absolutely for free.

Today I noticed that 20+ people have already subscribed to the channels, and I concluded that there is a demand for LobsterDAO translation. And perhaps there is even a request for other languages (for example, Chinese and Spanish), because not everyone knows English perfectly.

I had the idea that I could develop this direction, because it would give some benefits to our community:

1. Higher engagement in chat discussions
2. Higher reach for chats among crypto enthusiasts

If you think that such an activity will be useful for our community, then I would be ready to support and develop this direction, but I do not know if such work is worth at least 1 Lobster. It is possible, but in any case it is up to the LobsterDAO members to decide.

Sincerely thank you for your attention =)

lobsterdao NFT vote escrow

Opening a discussion on a ve mechanism for lobs NFTs.

Ability to lock NFTs in a vault which mints a second non transferable NFT which represents ownership of All locked lobs and duration of lock (end date). Only locked NFTs can vote and vote weight is a derivative of amount of NFTs locked and duration.

This has potential to cement and further align incentives of lobs lockers with the dao. It would also give projects that wish to snapshot based on serious dao governance participants a second option, whether to snapshot based on veNFT voting weight per address or simply LOBS holders / combination of both.

This could incentivize more serious participation in lobsterdao in gov and value add contribution as well as reduce sell pressure + available supply.

This also opens up an opportunity for the dao to propose future treasury lobs nft releases to public to create revenue stream for treasury to fund internal projects as required at potentially higher floor prices without contributing to an oversupply on market (minimizing floor price impact)

A batch of proposals

1] Of course, the first issue is what to do with the 49% of supply the DAO will end up with. I honestly don't know what is best here. I don't think burning all is correct, but maybe the majority of them? See twitter post by the account.

2] Also, wanna see a DAO proposal for X number of NFTs for the following:
a) best recaps of solana-avalanche-fantom-polygon-xdai discussions why yes/no
b) recap of the topic on regulations and how to approach token-security (non-legal advice)
c) recap on malicious<>hack<>arbitrage<>theft semantic debate

3] And an issue for those who were late or didn't know. The database didn't keep records of who did or did not claim, it's an anonymized set of addresses. So you can't trust someone saying if they did or did not claim, unless we ask the bot developer to look into it. But a few founders forgot to claim, and that's sad. What could be done is the following, imho:
a] ask bot developer to add more registrants and then give those people only 1 even if they had 5 before, as a fee.
b] collect only founders who can be trusted and just distribute to them, without asking the bot dev to check for sybil
c] ?

More incoming!

DAO question: Should we consider Twitter background Lobster NFT ?

Hello 6751

As discussed on tg, what do you think about us creating a Lobster NFT which will suitable for
using as Twitter background ?

Note:
Some of you might be sent to outer space soon due to Proposal 1
have fun and good luck finding another race.

[Discussion] Bug: LobsterDAO NFT for project contributors

LobsterDAO NFT for project contributors

During the initial distribution of LobsterNFT, some NFT were distributed to contributors who helped build the project.

Reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vjGXNyAMmudhZ6R7_qAPPs7RgES5DbMiiSAoeMnngw4/edit

Due to a bug in the script, some of those contributors have not received their attributed NFTs (from the extra tab). The bug appeared for those who provided the same address in the google sheet and to the Telegram bot.

Those affected have been identified and confirmed by the multi-sig participants.
For transparency, I am part of those impacted.

This GitHub thread is created to get your opinion on either the missing NFTs could be distributed in a randomized way to the 3 contributors impacted or not.

You may have noticed that I previously created a snapshot proposal, which I deleted in favor of this GitHub issue as recommended in Discord.

Cheers & good day!

LobsterDAO: Mission, what do we want to be?

@alekseipu asked in TG what is the mission statement of the DAO? What goals do we want to pursue aside from making bank?

I have no idea. This is the place for people who have some to discuss.