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Lovely Day Dev meeting summary

Lots of stuff done in the past 2 weeks:

v2 block tests
flattened CMake issues (DNSSEC will work again)

the possibilities of inconstent database state and the mempool transactions ""have been clobbered""

amongst other stuff not mentioned, but copying here from moneromoos milestone work:
fixes for the wallet creating txes over max size the daemon will accept
more work on tests (including tests for the MRL-0004 changes)
going through all the V1/V2 stuff to catch what I saw was wrong
fix for txes not expiring from pool due to other nodes coming online regularly
better handling of pending/failed txes in simplewallet
new command/RPC to flush txes from the txpool
preventing two daemons from using the same data dir concurrently
more intelligent handling against duplicate outs

RingCT

Shen is almost done with reference code, volunteers needed to actually implement. warptangent takes on the db stuff.

https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/tree/master/brief

When RingCT gets merged, will be a good time to merge other database formats.
DB format changes - build a converter that "upgrades" format changes. It's left open, but hyc agrees to tackle it later.

Dev Branch

This has become the bastard child of Monero development apparently. Lines 82 - 167 encompass discussion on this topic. The goal is "to merge back to the dev branch" Ultimately the decision is to hack at it for a bit and reevalauate in next meeting.

What I'll do it hack at it to make it work better, really. All that's needed is time without the problem of a release coming too quick.

Godspeed moneromooo.

Hardforks

The next fork (RingCT) will be the last time any modifications of the hardfork schedule are permitted.

Monero dev meeting summary 20160305

Open pull requests mostly just DB stuff by warptangent and hyc, and will be merged within next couple of hours. In the last couple of weeks, unit test fixes, threading fixes, "lots of little things". Hyc had some readtxn changes. Hyc's performance changes need to wait until some kind of migration system is implemented / developed.

Fees are fine. Too soon for adjustment. Talk of "magic number automation" - fees will autoadjust one day! ArcticMine takes on researching / developing a proposal for automatically adjusting fees.

Dev Branch - the buck stops here. Moneromoo is waiting for 0.9.2 to be tagged "so that no new patches go there". So once we have 0.9.2, dev branch goes upstream (to master).

We need a library that plays well with HTTPS and support authentication and is compatible with our license.

RingCT - WarpTangent becoming familiar with what needs to be done, and RingCT development will go on newer database branch. There's some "floating point or fixed" issue that needs to be decided. Forum threads will be opened for that. Warptanget steps up to the plate to make the thread.

Changing mixin to something else is a thing that might happen, but "its a community thing, not a dev thing"

Everybody shakes hands, gives themselves pats on the back and "attaboys", and venture off into the night to go meditate on the metaphysics of mixin 0 transactions.

Monero dev meeting summary

Dev meeting summary by gingeropolous, 20160131

Use of dev branch

First thing discussed is the dev branch. Contributors have fell back into the habbit of merging stuff to master. All hacking should be done onto dev branch.

Apparently this is because of bugs. A new point release to fix the v1/v2 stuck transaction bugs is coming.

The thing holding up general move to development branch is that CZMQ/0MQ hasn't been bundled in source, so its a pain to compile. Everyone agrees to bundle CZMQ/0MQ into dev branch. Fluffypony will get it in the source tree.

There is more talk about minor tweaks that should or shouldn't go into the upcoming point release.

Style guide

In kovri they've been working with a style guide, and fluffypony suggests implementing one in Monero. Basically, this is the way the code is formatted (human formatted).

Its agreed to use the new style with new code, and restyle-as-you-go with old code. Restyling for the sake of restyling is though to be unnecessary. Key points:

we assume from this point on the code is indented like the majority of the code so far - 2 spaces, not tabs, not 4 spaces.

push harder on "code should go in a .cpp not .h"

Collective Code Construction Contract (c4)

As used in 0MQ as described here

The idea is to merge every PR as long as it doesn't break the build. Aim is to avoid PR-hell where everyone comments on a PR for days and weeks and it never gets merged, because its never "perfect." Merge-everything is done so that contributors establish a history, and they can be banned if they are repeat offenders.

In general, the idea is agreed upon. However, there is concern and uncertaintly regarding the roles of the various branches and how the contract applies to which branches. The conversation bleeds into ringCT implementation and timeframe and how the c4 would affect this process. The fact that 0MQ-dev branch is currently unusable is brought up regarding how the c4 would function. It is noted that 0MQ was pushed to dev because the original contributor couldn't continue working on it. Ultimately the 0MQ situation will not happen again.

Ultimately, this issue will be brought up at the next meeting.

Keep hacking around things or dump stuff for things that are easier

This is a lot of meta-code stuff. The thing that was salient to me was the doxygen-compatible approach, which would allow newcomers to the code to become acquainted more efficiently.

Thanks!

Fluffypony extends his gratitude to all contributors, and everyone makes their way to the reception hall for bacon wrapped shrimp, pigs in blankets, and all other sorts of tiny foods that hover on discs.

Moneropedia - Mix-in

Need to add this term to Moneropedia. Unknown if anybody is working on this term. I can add it if nobody else is.

Implement pagination in the forums

In my humble opinion paginated threads are much more usable than the "infinite scroll" behaviour, and helps following and resuming forum visits. I believe this will also help newcomers that are used to how other forums function.

Fixing the RPC wallet output

Updated the RPC wallet output with current output from testnet and updated some of the field information for transfer and transfer_split

#216

How to setup an OpenAlias Monero address

This is a Work-In-Progress.

I will be updating this page with an improved article for the OpenAlias entry in the Moneropedia.

Per funding from the Monero Community, this is my first article.

Shapeshift no longer offer Monero

http://moneroinfo.org/eng-how-to-buy-monero/ says

At this time, Monero is primarily available for Bitcoin through three primary exchanges: Shapeshift, Poloniex, and Bittrex. There are currently no direct methods by which one can purchase Monero with fiat currencies on an exchange.

shapeshift.io no longer offer Monero (XMR), so can you remove that from the text?

Dust

For Moneropedia entry

Dust is a generic term given to amount of XMR so low that

  1. they have no meaningful value
  2. they are very expensive to spend (the transaction fees may be 50% or even 200% of the dust itself)

The dangers of dust

The dust issue happens in every cryptocurrency and can be used as an attack vector, to bloat the blockchain (much like many 20 bytes files on a file system can bloat a filesystem by using many more clusters than necessary). Dust issue can be mitigated with smart fine-tuning. In the case of Monero, the original pool software had too low a threshold for payment, resulting on a lot of dust. Later, an dust attack was even perpetrated.

The solution to dust

MRL-0004 implements a solution for dealing with dust in an elegant way: new outputting rules. "No new dust will be created in the system, and dust will only be removed from the system over time"

Moneropedia - Blockchain

The following page on Blockchain should be updated to the following:

A distributed ledger of all transactions both past and present. This ledger is made up of a series of blocks. In Monero, the blockchain does not reveal who the funds came from or went to. To see how the blockchain is obscured, see ring signatures.

Menu looks weird on mobile devices

I can't get the menu to be full width on mobile devices (testing on an iPhone 6), and I also hate that it's half-length.

Ideally I think the mobile menu (under 768px) should be full width, full height.

3-9-15 Missive transcription.

Might need a solid looking over, I think i got most of the spelling out of the way.

Fluffypony:
Hello and welcome to yet another Monero missive podcast i'm Fluffypony and i'm joined today by several people

Gingeropoplus
Hi everyone how are you doing

Fluffypony:
And tom who you may know as tewinget

Tom:
Hello

Fluffypony:
And Binaryfate

Binaryfate
my name

Fluffypony:
and Krongol

Krongol:
hi everybody

Fluffypony:
so because of the amount of stuff that we seem to be covering in each weeks missive podcast we obviously haven’t been able to touch on external projects a recap for everyone that doesn’t know what external projects is its the section of the missive that deals with projects that are not by the core team, they’re by members of the community or anyone really that’s doing something interesting
that involves Monero.

OK you know mymonero seems to be growing in popularity and obviously one of the concerns that people have had is the ability to you know they want to be able to use mymonero mymonero exploits and they don’t want to lose access to their funds for want of a better term. And they're still in control of their funds they're in control of their private key but we do recognize that there is a need for simplewallet to be able to use the mymonero style keys

so that’s something we are working on and that’s something that’s something that were quite close to but what were happy to announce is the availability of an import wallet function so if you have an existing simplewallet mnemonics 25 word you will now be able to import your wallet into mymonero however this doesn’t come free and if you’ve ever done a wallet restore

then you’ll know that it is a little bit painful because a wallet restore takes several hours even on a snappy machine so for us to import wallets we have to incur a cost purely for processing perspective and that has to be handed over to customers

so at this initial stage were gonna be charging 10 Monero for a wallet import, its a once off cost you’ll never need to pay it again and it will run from there on out with no additional fees for importing it

and obviously i mean as time progresses and depending on how successful this feature is we may look at reducing the cost or whatever depending on how it scales

and obviously one of the other things is we do support all the mnemonic languages that Monero supports and will continue adding support for them as they increase and the ability to go the opposite route you know to go from mymonero into simplewallet um should be in simplewallet shortly

and then really the last prong of this three pronged attack (chuckle) that were doing is to give people the ability to create watch only wallets which effectively you can kinda fake now um in a way by importing your view key with a random spend key but well have proper watch only wallet functionality soon

Gingeropolus:
so cool to see you just log in to check like how much you have in your account

if anyone has sent you anything

Fluffypony:
yeah and its not in a manner that can be exploited because we wont have your spend key and even if we try to change the javascript we still wouldn’t have your spend key

Gingeropolus:
mhm

Fluffypony:
oh yeah so pretty much so last since we did external projects there’s a newcomer on the scene that’s kinda exciting. xmr.to so xmr. to and that’s why today we have Krongol and Binaryfate who are both from xmr.to they’re part of the team

so to start off why don’t you guys tell us a little bit about what xmr.to is either of you

Krongol:
alright so um we're bunch of um computer science researchers in facts there’s three of us there’s us the two of us and arnuschky whose also known I'm the newer guy but these other guys have been involved in crypto for a longer time and

uh Binaryfate i think has been aware of the whole Monero stuff right from the beginning. he got uh me and arnuschky excited about the whole space we’ve been looking to get into crypto for a while

we’ve just recently got to be called cryptos first system which is the brand wee wanna get involved with that we wanna use and we want to do something simple and quick to get to put our toes in the water so we came up with this idea that one of the things is great and exciting about mymonero is the whole anonymity but the problem is that its very hard to spend this stuff

where as everyone’s spending bitcoin so the idea was quite a simple one just uh try and enable people to spend Monero but in bitcoin world.

Binaryfate can you tell us a little bit about how xmr.to works from a users perspective

Binaryfate:
From the user perspective its quite simple in fact basically you um you want to send to bitpay or pay for something online but give a bitocin address and you send a bitocin amount.

what xmr.to is doing is to be in automatic gateway to pay these bill in bitocin for you and of using xmr

so in the end it gives the ability for the user to buy anything with bitcoin while only spending Moneros

so xmr.to gives the possibility to the end user basically to send bitcoin to purchase any kind of goods online with bitcoin that is now probably accepted unlike Moneros

so the user can purchase stuff with bitcoin by only paying Monero.

Fluffypony:
I myself tried the thing out within like the first hours of you guys posting i dunno if you recall so yeah i was able to just plug in the bitcoin address i had and pay my self with Monero you know my question in these things is always from the new user you know just pretend I'm some guy that watched the Superbowl and was like oh bitcoin and then read about oh Monero how secure is it what are the processes of it where i can be sure that I'm actually sending Monero and it’ll turn up as bitcoin somewhere. Again this is the whole trusting a third party thing so i dunno if you guys could elaborate

Binaryfate:
i think there’s two different aspects to this. so one is just to trust any third party instead of some random person on the internet i mean in a way there’s not that much you can do about it

Gingeropolus:
right right

Binaryfate:
beyond just trying with just small amounts and i guess that’s kind of what we've seen people doing already

Fluffypony:
you know when it comes down to it you also gotta tryst the company you’re buying from anyways. so you're adding another layer to it meow.

this is the same as what everything on the internet before the community as well so you see that people have had positive experiences and the thing hits a critical mass and then you can be fairly confident that it works. you will feel the first couple of users that its just this weird black box that you don’t know whats coming out the other end

Gingeropolus
Yeah just to mention that as you said its something that we witness anywhere in general because we are to trust the merchant or we are to trust bitpay to actually act as a gateway and not to keep your bitcoin so its just one layer that people i think are quite used to

yeah i think the most important thing for me to mention is that there is absolutely no trust involved for anything that is um privacy related so you spend your Monero and we dunno anything more than that.

Gingeropolus:
mhm

Binaryfate:
because Monero is not traceable back so we can really the only information that we know about you is your ip address but if you reach xmr.to through some um anonymous networks like tor i2p then there is not much that we can do even if we were some really bad guys we would like to we couldn't do anything basically which is very nice

Gingeropolus:
yeah

Binaryfate:
no problem for the user

Fluffypony:
i think the one key advantage as well is um most of the you know a lot of the losses that have occurred when in crypto wen people have had to trust third parties have been things like exchanges with they've left money on the exchange and with you guys its straight through you dump Monero in and out pops the bitcoin and there’s not really much of an interval in between where things can go wrong

Binaryfate:
yeah

and on that front one of the things we’ve tried to the do on the user interface is to make it very responsive so that basically you can always see that something is happening so we actually spent like a bit of extra time um on it with a bit of extra development effort monitoring the transaction pool rather than just waiting for confirmation which is our first attempt we realized we were quite keen

that the user gets the sense that things are happening snappily so that you don’t feel that oh I've sent my money into the void, whats going on. but you get in fact very quickly get back some sort of notification saying okay we're seeing that somethings going on here what were doing about it and we’ve tried to make that user experience so right from the moment you send your money to the moment that the bitcoin appears that the other end yourself always being notified in real time whats happening so you don’t just get left with this sinking feeling of oh god

Gingeropolus:

hah hah hah hah yea i did enjoy that part of the experience like i sent my Monero there and all of a sudden you had the screen change and there’s was a tracking number and i was like oh OK something is happening

Binaryfate:
nice to know that the effort was noticed. appreciated.

Gingeropolus:
i have a couple of questions about that whole process

Binaryfate:
yeah

Gingeropolus:
for one um, there are some merchant services i believe bitpay and coinbase being two of them i think they have roughly ten minute timeouts on a transaction so if you start a transaction then that amount of bitocin they want you to send is valid for only ten minutes to deal with the volatility a bit. do you wait for enough confirmations from Monero from the blockchain and if so is it within that limit would i have a problem with that?

so basically withing that fifteen minutes i have to send Monero to you. it has to get enough confirmations or you guys to mark it as safe and then you have to send the bitocin and so what toms asking is what are the chances of missing that window

Binaryfate:
so what we do is to give the user five minutes time window but what matters and what needs to happen within this time window is just that we actually see the transaction on the peer to peer network. if you send the transaction on time there is literally zero chance that you miss this time window. if you are just connected to the Monero network. and as soon as we actually witness the transaction on the network we stop the timer and we just wait for one confirmation before sending the bitocin. we think that for now one confirmation is way enough and we can take the risk especially because we're still dealing with very small amounts. but because we don’t need the confirmation to happen in the time window but only to witness the transaction on the network its very safe for the user because you're practicality no chance to miss it

but in terms of missing the second timeout like the lock on time amount of whoever you’re paying in bitocin its quite unlikely if you’re snappy on your end as an end users i think that were just benefiting form the fact that the Monero confirmations clock in much faster than the bitcoin confirmations

Gingeropolus:
it sounds like waiting for one confirmation is plenty small time.

even if we eventually want to up that to two or three you're still within, you can get 2 or 3 Monero confirmation well before even one bitocin confirmation so no one in bitcoin world is gonna set their timeout so small because of the slow confirmations

Binaryfate:
if in the future this becomes an issue say bitpay suddenly decides to change this countdown to five minutes instead of fifteen what we could do on our side is to accept a zero confirmation transation which is exactly what bitpay is doing. based on some rules you judge whether the transation is highly likely to be spend and for now its really do it and see for our needs but its something we could do int he future.

Gingeropolus:
now if i could ask just one other question. i don’t know this one that you probably might not want to answer but I'm curious how does this work on the back end. like can you give any sort of like brief synopsis of that. because I'm curious like do you take the xmr and then go and buy the bitcoin like where does the bitcoin come from in this i guess is the question.

Krongol:
yeah well, uh, in a way i think its important for the user to know at least one thing this thing is that we don’t buy the equivalent of bitcoin right away because that would be possibly weakening the privacy right because you could make some time correlations because poloniex could do for instance we would use poloniex to change the Moneros immediately. for the same amount that was just sent to us. that would be an issue. so we don’t do that. we are not sure how in the future how we are going to change them but for now i think we do it like once a week. so yeah for now in a way .....? and we are still figuring out what the best way for us to go financially speaking but yeah whats important to know is we don’t change them back right away.

and the other thing important for the end user to know is we set our maximum based on how much bitcoin we have in our funds so we will never accept an order we cant fulfill basically. if were running low on funds.

Fluffypony:
your risk tolerance is based on how much you got in reserve

Binaryfate:
yeah so were exposing ourselves to exchange fluctuations at the moment we just take on that risk and as Jeremy says we need to come up with a plan where we protect ourselves against that.

Fluffypony:
thanks very much for the chat guys and well see everyone next week

Gingeropolus:
yeah thanks for hanging out guys

Tom:
cheers guys see ya

Binaryfate:
thinks for having us bye

Gingeropolus:
thank you all for joining it was quite a big crowd today, very awesome. thanks all for listening and tune in next week and here’s bob with sports.

Main site should have an RSS feed with latest release

Unless I'm missing something, there isn't currently a way for someone to get notified of new releases, other than subscribing to reddit/forum threads or refreshing the GitHub releases page.

Providing an RSS feed with the latest release should help people be up to date, especially with urgent releases such as 0.9.2.

Account/Wallet Terminology

Anybody have any input on this? I am thinking of changing all references of "account" to "wallet"? This would align with monero-wallet-cli. Personally I prefer the term account, but I think most prefer the term wallet.

Menu doesn't work with JS disabled

Bootstrap dropdown button menu should work with JS disabled, but it doesn't. @SkepticalHippo is looking at this, options are basically:

  1. Replace the entire menu with a pure CSS variant
  2. Have pure CSS handlers as a fallback in tags

Moneropedia - Kovri

Kovri is a C++ router for I2P that is under heavy development. The intent is to run Monero nodes in the Kovri I2P router to hide IP addresses.

Kovri development helps Monero by increasing the privacy of it, and Monero helps Kovri by increasing the size of the I2P network.

View the Kovri project on GitHub here.

Getting closer to feature parity for the toolbar

List of Markdown syntax not yet replicated in toolbar:

  • heading 2-6 (heading 1 shall not be used so better not to encourage it - Heading 5 and 6 will probably not be used)
  • blockquote
  • lists, both ordered and unordered
  • code, both block (<pre><code>) and inline (<code>)
  • horizontal rule (I for one use it from time to time but if only HTML input is possible, I won't die, although it would break the principle of feature parity)
  • anchor links (probably tricker to handle UX-wise, low-priority)

Moneropedia - RingCT

The following text should be added to the Moneropedia for RingCT:

RingCT, short for ring confidential transactions, is a way to hide the amount sent in a Monero transaction. This feature is currently in the testnet phase and is a high development priority.

RingCT introduces an improved version of ring signatures called A Multi-layered Linkable Spontaneous Anonymous Group signature, which allows for hidden amounts, origins and destinations of transactions with reasonable efficiency and verifiable, trustless coin generation.

For more information, please read the creator Shen Noether's paper here.

Daemon-rpc doc: Add correct output description for /sendrawtransaction

URL: https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/daemon-rpc#sendrawtransaction

The output of /sendrawtransaction is described as:

Outputs:

  • status - string; General RPC error code. "OK" means everything looks good.

In Monero v0.10.1.0 the actual output for an invalid tx_as_hex input value such as 'abc' is

{ double_spend: false,
  fee_too_low: false,
  invalid_input: false,
  invalid_output: false,
  low_mixin: false,
  not_rct: false,
  not_relayed: false,
  overspend: false,
  reason: '',
  status: 'Failed',
  too_big: false }

This leads to the following type pattern:

double_spend: boolean;
fee_too_low: boolean;
invalid_input: boolean;
invalid_output: boolean;
low_mixin: boolean;
not_rct: boolean;
not_relayed: boolean;
overspend: boolean;
reason: string;
status: string;
too_big: boolean;

Including Chinese Translation

Monero has increased in popularity lately, and Chinese users may be interested. Given that the Chinese government is quite oppressive at times, many of the Chinese would probably find Monero useful.

Apparently the translation has already been done and is just waiting to be merged. If so, it would be nice if it where merged.

Moneropedia - Smart Mining

Smart mining is the process of having a throttled miner mine when it otherwise does not cause drawbacks. Drawbacks include increases heat, slower machine, depleting battery, etc. The intent of smart mining is to increase network security by allowing as many people as possible to let the smart miner on all the time. For this to work, the miner must prove unobtrusive, or it will be turned off, depriving the Monero network from a little bit of security. As such, it is likely that a smart miner will mine slower than a normal miner on the same hardware.

Smart mining was started in 2014, but the contributor had to leave due to lack of time. View the current code here.

When this is finished, it is hoped that the relative slowness of a smart miner (especially on low-power machines) will be offset by the large amount of people running a miner for a possible "lottery win", and thus increase the Monero network security by a non trivial amount. The increased hash rate from many different sources will help keep the Monero network decentralized.

(Page adapted from here).

User guide -> how to buy monero 20150920

http://imgur.com/a/ElVrq

How to obtain monero

This is a guide to obtain your own Monero as of 20150919. This is perhaps the easiest way to purchase and hold Monero.

Step 1: Buy bitcoin

There are many ways to buy bitcoin. Perhaps the easiest way is through circle.com. Once you have purchased some bitcoin, you are ready to buy some Monero! Buying bitcoin is straightforward. Please goto circle.com and just follow the instructions there.

Step 2: Set up a mymonero.com account

MyMonero.com is an online wallet for Monero, maintained by Monero Core Developer Ricardo Spagni (fluffpony). It is the easiest wallet to use. Simply go to MyMonero.com and click on the "Create an Account" button.

MyMonero!

After clicking the button, you will see your private key. This key is what gives you access to your funds. Never share this key with anyone!

WRITE DOWN THIS KEY IMMEDIATELY!

private key

Type in your private key in the box below, and click the button.

On the next page, you will see your address.

copy address

Copy your address to the clipboard by highlighting the whole thing and hitting ctrl+c (or edit menu, copy), or clicking the little icon next to your address. Save your address somewhere. This is how others will send Monero to you, and what you will use to deposit Monero into your account!

Step 3: Buy monero and transfer the monero to your new address

Go to www.shapeshift.io . On the righthand side, of the screen, click icon under "Receive" to select Monero.

Select Monero

MONERO!

Paste your address into the field under the Monero logo. Select the "agree to terms" button, then hit "Start"

Paste monero address

In the new screen that pops up, copy the Deposit Address into your clipboard (select and hit ctrl+c or edit-copy)

Copy this address

Go back to your circle.com page, hit the "transfer" button, and paste the bitcoin address into the field
Enter the amount of bitcoin you would like to spend.

Select transfer on circle.com

paste address

You will get a text message verification code. Enter code and hit send.

enter code

You will see the shapeshift change to "awaiting exchange"

moneys coming

Then it will change to COMPLETE!

MONEY CAME

After a while you will see it in your Monero account

You did it. Have a cookie

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