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maddentim avatar maddentim commented on May 24, 2024 1

Personally, I do not see this notification ever being particularly useful to me. I definitely do not need the nextcloud client to tell me it could not connect to the server when the client system has no internet. Maybe if the system can reach the internet but the server was still inaccessible, I suppose that could be useful. Can you imagine if every client application on your system popped a notification every time could not connect?

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r33int avatar r33int commented on May 24, 2024 1

I'd suggest to turn off (or at least add an option) these notifications for connection errors that are most likely to be on the users's network side (e.g not connected to any network, timed out), as the user is likely already aware of these issues and does not need Nextcloud to notify them.

I'd also mute time out notifications, as these notifications can appear a lot when using an unstable connection (e.g when riding a train), and again, the user is most likely already aware of that.

In these cases, I would show an info box in the systray pane saying for example "You're currently offline. Syncing is paused and will continue when you go online again."

These notifications would indeed be very useful for unexpected issues related to the server itself (internal error, invalid certificate etc).

For most users, Nextcloud client just simply sits there in the background and does its job at syncing, and having constant notifications from it can get disturbing.

That's my own opinion on this, let me know what you think of it!

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rdsherwood avatar rdsherwood commented on May 24, 2024

I have encountered the same problem, and I agree, there should be an option to disable them.

In my case, the error message displays when I wake the computer from sleep, because it takes a few seconds to reconnect to the network. If you could delay the error for 5 or 10 seconds from awakening or from a restart, it would resolve the problem.

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chiva avatar chiva commented on May 24, 2024

Similar here

I get connected to my Nextcloud instance by Tailscale, but also use it for work, so I have to switch profiles on Tailscale.
This means I'm a lot of hours not connected to my home VPN and getting error notifications every minute, very annoying.

I see it added in PR 6438
Specifically from 35108a8

Can't see any explanation on why was it pushed, more so when it degrades UX

I'd understand this state to be shown in the Nextcloud taskbar icon with a warning icon or something like that, and the actual message within the deployed window when clicking on it.

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maddentim avatar maddentim commented on May 24, 2024

It should at least have a little patience. When my laptop wakes from suspend, Nextcloud client throws a network not found error immediately even though the network connection was in the process of reconnecting. If I suspend a resume my system a half a dozen times at, these useless errors just pile up. Oof.

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camilasan avatar camilasan commented on May 24, 2024

Thanks for the feedback, it should be possible to make them more 'patience'.

wdyt @nextcloud/designers ?

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nimishavijay avatar nimishavijay commented on May 24, 2024

@camilasan agreed, that can be annoying.

We could delay the connection check by a few minutes after starting up, if that's possible to detect? So if there is no connection found 2 mins after starting up, the error can be shown. Would that be possible? :)

A good error message also has some suggested actions that the user can take, even if it's a simple "Please try again later". That would help troubleshoot the issues if they are happening frequently.

If the error message is really annoying I'm also thinking of having a "Don't show again" checkbox which would stop the notification popping up until the next startup. But this sounds risky, what do you think?

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Nydragon avatar Nydragon commented on May 24, 2024

My Nextcloud instance is behind a VPN, and as I am not connected to it most of the time I get this notification every ~6 minutes. I don't think that this is a rare use case and so I am not sure if making Nextcloud more patient by a couple of minutes after coming out of sleep properly addresses this issue. For me waiting multiple hours (6, 24?) and being able to disable those notifications would make more sense

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