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Hi Peter,
Just to put it into perspective: BKDF is more like a research project, not a well accept or peer reviewed KDF implementation of bcrypt.
That beeing said: Inever heard of bcrypt_pbkdf but from your references:
- pkcs #5 pbkdf2 implementation using the "bcrypt" hash
- The bcrypt hash function is derived from the bcrypt password hashing
- function with the following modifications:
- The input password and salt are preprocessed with SHA512.
- The output length is expanded to 256 bits.
- Subsequently the magic string to be encrypted is lengthened and modifed
- to "OxychromaticBlowfishSwatDynamite"
- The hash function is defined to perform 64 rounds of initial state
- expansion. (More rounds are performed by iterating the hash.)
- Note that this implementation pulls the SHA512 operations into the caller
- as a performance optimization.
- One modification from official pbkdf2. Instead of outputting key material
- linearly, we mix it. pbkdf2 has a known weakness where if one uses it to
- generate (e.g.) 512 bits of key material for use as two 256 bit keys, an
- attacker can merely run once through the outer loop, but the user
- always runs it twice. Shuffling output bytes requires computing the
- entirety of the key material to assemble any subkey. This is something a
- wise caller could do; we just do it for you.
It seems to use quite different defaults/config from "normal" BCrypt. Quickly reading the description, I don't think they use bcrypt, only the key schedule (Eksblowfish). This KDF seems, like my project, more like a homebrew non-standard KDF - but quite different from my proposed way. Therefore I don't see it as feature for this project (and had bad experiences implementing exotic, non-standard protocols see https://github.com/patrickfav/singlestep-kdf which is defined by NIST).
However, I think it would be possible to do with normal effort, just have a look at https://github.com/patrickfav/bcrypt/blob/master/modules/bcrypt/src/main/java/at/favre/lib/crypto/bcrypt/BCryptOpenBSDProtocol.java which should be the raw key schedule. You might need to change the magic string from here https://github.com/patrickfav/bcrypt/blob/009cbd8e301c02bdcaff5b1aad4eedca8b159de0/modules/bcrypt/src/main/java/at/favre/lib/crypto/bcrypt/BCryptOpenBSDProtocol.java#L311 . Just be aware there are hundred ways to introduce subtle bugs.
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Hi Patrick
Thanks for your detailed response!
I totally understand your points.
I’ve now found a pbkdf java Implementation:
(A fork of the ominous jbcrypt, with its special coding style)
I might be using that one for now.
Thanks again for the explanations!
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There is a lib for everything :) Wish you good luck with your project. Cheers!
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