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Assile avatar Assile commented on August 16, 2024

Would https://www.pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/help-channel-guide/#frequently-asked-questions also need to be taken into account for this change?

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shtlrs avatar shtlrs commented on August 16, 2024

Would https://www.pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/help-channel-guide/#frequently-asked-questions also need to be taken into account for this change?

What do you think needs to be changed for this? Replacing channel with post?

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Assile avatar Assile commented on August 16, 2024

Would https://www.pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/help-channel-guide/#frequently-asked-questions also need to be taken into account for this change?

What do you think needs to be changed for this? Replacing channel with post?

Yes, that's my thinking. If a 'channel' under a Forum channel is considered a post, then some of the mentions of the word channel here should also be changed to the word post, right?

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shtlrs avatar shtlrs commented on August 16, 2024

Yes, that's my thinking. If a 'channel' under a Forum channel is considered a post, then some of the mentions of the word channel here should also be changed to the word post, right?

Theoretically, yes.

The thing here is that, technically, it isn't. And that's because these posts are threads IIRC.

There is some nuance between both, and it caused some sort of "confusion" or debate on what they need to be called. And I think channel was chosen because it's they're quite common across users as channels, even though a post is just sort of façade and new way to create a new "channel", which also has a title.

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Assile avatar Assile commented on August 16, 2024

Theoretically, yes.

The thing here is that, technically, it isn't. And that's because these posts are threads IIRC.

There is some nuance between both, and it caused some sort of "confusion" or debate on what they need to be called. And I think channel was chosen because it's they're quite common across users as channels, even though a post is just sort of façade and new way to create a new "channel", which also has a title.

Fair enough, do you think this warrants not changing any of the language, or to just keep the language on the help page unchanged?

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shtlrs avatar shtlrs commented on August 16, 2024

Fair enough, do you think this warrants not changing any of the language, or to just keep the language on the help page unchanged?

I wouldn't say it warrants not changing any of the language, but the language on the help page has been reviewed & I think that was what we had agreed upon. So first instinct would be to have everything in that fashion.

But we can see what others have to say about this.

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wookie184 avatar wookie184 commented on August 16, 2024

I don't think this is worth changing, I think "help post", "help thread", and "help channel" are pretty much equally understandable.

The first thing sent when someone creates a post is "Python pinned a message to this channel.", so even Discord itself isn't particularly consistent.

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