Will you please allow "notify when online" notifications without login, or provide a 2.1.0 installer

[barbedknot]

Will you please allow "notify when online" notifications without login, or provide a 2.1.0 installer

[ALazyMeme]

Hello barbedknot

Thank you for your concerns, I will assist by addressing them one by one.

Chatterino dropped support for Windows 7 on version 2.1.0

The dropped support was as a result of Microsoft themselves no longer offering support for Windows 7. To users that are on Windows 7, it is highly suggest you upgrade to Windows 10.

I was actually able to install the latest version for Windows normally a few weeks ago, despite my operating system being Windows 7

Yes, support has been dropped for Windows 7. You may be able to install it, however we have no plans to provide support for bugs/issues on Windows 7 devices.

• A chatterino7 release that is discrepant from the chatterino2 philosophy of not allowing non-logged in users to receive "notify when online" notifications (among other features)

As already mentioned, we are trying to move away from Kraken as a result of the API being decommissioned. Helix endpoints have a strict requirement for OAuth when trying to use any endpoint as per the API docs: https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/api/reference. This is inclusive of knowing when a stream is online or not. Hence why you are unable to see if a stream is live (and do/see many other things) if you are not logged in.

• A chatterino7 release that supports Windows 7 (my understanding was that 2.1.0 was the last version to support Windows 7, but at some point that appears to've changed, so perhaps this is just a given)

As aforementioned, Microsoft has dropped all support for Windows 7. Why would we support Windows 7 if the developer doesn't themselves? It seems absolutely preposterous to me.

Is a Windows 7 user still able to have a functioning Chatterino above version 2.1.0?

Sure, it may work. We still don't provide support for it.

Also I feel it is dishonest of you to just refuse to acknowledge the quote I cited demonstrating the outright refusal to allow anonymous "live checks" even if it were possible for the foreseeable future. There is a difference between "we could if we would" and "we refuse to". You making a third choice for yourself of "the choice is out of our hands" is too late considering I cited a quote on chatterino's stance on this already.

Chatterino is a community-made, open source project. Nobody gets paid to work on it. I'll put it quite simply; Kraken is not being added into Chatterino, just so users are able to see when a streamer is live in anonymous mode.

Your whole issue revolves around complaining that there's no Windows 7 or Kraken support. Both of which have had all support dropped by their main developers. So I ask you; why would we add support for said feature, if the devs themselves do not support it?

Kind Regards,
ALazyMeme

[barbedknot]

Also I feel it is dishonest of you to just refuse to acknowledge the quote I cited demonstrating the outright refusal to allow anonymous "live checks" even if it were possible for the foreseeable future. There is a difference between "we could if we would" and "we refuse to". You making a third choice for yourself of "the choice is out of our hands" is too late considering I cited a quote on chatterino's stance on this already.

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Kind Regards,
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[Mm2PL]

We (Chatterino devs/contributors) made a decision to move Chatterino to use only Helix (the new Twitch API) instead of Kraken (aka v5). Helix doesn't support anonymous title/live checks anymore (bother Twitch about that, not us). The feature on your old Chatterino version will stop working soon because Kraken is being DECOMMISSIONED.

We don't support Windows 7 anymore, as doesn't Microsoft. We can't support anything indefinitely. This OS is 12 years old, it's about time. Most users have moved to newer and supported OSes.

[barbedknot]

Well, I somewhat understand. Is a Windows 7 user still able to have a functioning chatterino above version 2.1.0? If so, functioning to what degree?

Also I feel it is dishonest of you to just refuse to acknowledge the quote I cited demonstrating the outright refusal to allow anonymous "live checks" even if it were possible for the foreseeable future. There is a difference between "we could if we would" and "we refuse to". You making a third choice for yourself of "the choice is out of our hands" is too late considering I cited a quote on chatterino's stance on this already.